Well, I HAVE LEARNED WELL!

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 You have unintentionally (I assume) misquoted, Zhenya.? Yeates means this as an indication of all that is wrong with our (his) times:)
In other words, it is not laudable to lack convictions.? 
Ditto, I think this discussion is leading you guys nowhere.

All best,

Julia


 


 

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From: Slivkin, Yevgeniy A. <slivkin at OU.EDU>
To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:19 am
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Well, I HAVE LEARNED WELL!










Dear Anyse,

I just wanted to say that I support your view entirely. To rephrase 
Bernard-Henri Levy, I am not pro-Russian, I am anti- anti-Russian. Vigorously 
pro-Russians and anti-Russians are  the same type of people, it is no use 
talking to them. Actually, William Butler Yeats formulated the situation in one 
great line, "The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of 
passionate intensity."

Regards ,

Yevgeny Slivkin, Ph.D.
Department of Modern Languages, Literatures, and Linguistics
University of Oklahoma

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From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list 
[SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Anyse Joslin [anyse1 at MAC.COM]
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:45 AM
To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
Subject: [SEELANGS] Well, I HAVE LEARNED WELL!

Today, I received what I would call the most angry and out of control
message from someone here who does not like my views about relations
between Russia and the US. I am neither an apologist for the evils of
Soviet Russia nor for the evils of the US. Each is flawed and each
works very hard to color their own history as best as they can. I
cannot write forever about how evil everyone WAS. I am only writing
about how each country can work TODAY to be better and to work
together better and to better their relations. What a Russia did under
Stalin is NOT what Russia does TODAY. Nor does what the US did in its
process of genocide with Native Americans is not what it does TODAY. I
do not know if I shall write again about seeking peace between nations
when I will be accosted for it by someone who read what I wrote here.
I believe that this place is supposed to be "safe" for such discussion
and, unfortunately, I am learning differently.

I do not mind if someone RATIONALLY disagrees with me and wants to
"discuss" it the same way. However, a crazed message accusing me of
"excusing" all of the past "evils" of the Soviet Union does not fit
this type of discourse. I am reminded of a line from a song: "Do not
remind me of my failures. I have not forgotten." I have not forgotten
all history and I do not approve of evils of the past. However, we do
need to move beyond all of this to something more positively
universal. Maybe I am nieve. I don't really think so, though.

I would appreciate your input about this. Should I write as I have or
should I just forget it?

Thank you,

Anyse

Anyse Joslin
9515 Kellingworth Court
Sacramento, CA   95827
anyse1 at mac.com
SKYPE: anyse1
916 364.1743

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