How do you like your coffee?
Alina Israeli
aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU
Thu Sep 3 13:44:43 UTC 2009
Krossovki entered the language in the early 80's, there were only kedy
before that.
Komp'uter sort of existed in professional parlance, but in the old
Russian tradition to use native word we used EVM —
elektronno-vyhislitel'naja mashina, they were enormous those days, the
size of a room. In the US they could be viewed at Boston museum, that's
the kind of machines I studied on and worked on in the 60's (high
school) and 70's.
So only when smaller machines appeared did the word komp'uter seriously
entered into the language.
Obratnyj slovar' russkogo jazyka 1974 which also lists what dictionaries
mention such-and-such word does not have either komp'juter or
predictably krossovki.
Alina
Steve Marder wrote:
> ---- Olga Meerson <meersono at GEORGETOWN.EDU> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Steve (Marder), the link you have sent to the Institute of Russian Language people's interview and opinions is great:
>> http://www.mk.ru/education/publications/344653.html
>>
>> They are very lucid in explaining both the discrepancies between the old and the new standards, and the inevitability, and even necessity, for these discrepancies.
>> o.m.
>>
>
> Thank you for your feedback, Olga. I didn't have time to check it at the time, but contrary to what was indicated in the article, the (now obsolescent?) 1989 edition of Ozhegov (edited by Shvedova) I just checked does indeed have entries for "komp'yuter" and "krossovki." I wonder what edition Mariya Kalenchuk was looking at? ("V slovare Ozhegova vy ne naydete slov 'komp'yuter', 'krossovki'".) I have other editions, both newer and older, of Ozhegov's dictionary at home and I will certainly check them this evening, although I suspect other readers will beat me to it.
>
> Steve
>
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