Out of the frying-pan...

[anne marie devlin]

A quick vox pop of native Russian speakers in Riga points to final syllable stress.  As for the predominance of the diminutive, informants claim to vary between both equally.  However, I feel this may be a case of observer's paradox as I've certainly heard the diminutive more often.
AMD

> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:44:49 -0400
> From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Out of the frying-pan...
> To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
> 
> I think it's the case of Moscow vs. Leningrad.
> 
> 4-volume 1984 dictionary (Leningrad) gives two stress (never mind that 
> is says Moscow on the first page, Evgen'eva lived in Leningrad, and MAC 
> is a reduced BAC, 17-vol, with some corrections and editions of course), 
> BTS — one stress on the first syllable.
> 
> Ozhegov (Moscow) gives a final stress, so does Zaliznjak 2008, 
> mentioning that the first syllable stress is obsolete.
> 
> AI
> 
> John Dunn wrote:
> > The position with сковороду seems rather complicated.  My 1961 and 1972 editions of Ozhegov offer only final stress; Zaliznjak's Grammaticheskij slovar' (1977), the 1985 Orfoepicheskij slovar' and my 1992 edition of Ozhegov and Shvedova all give first syllable stress as obsolescent; the Russkij orfograficheskij slovar' of 2005 (which I think is one of gramota.ru's sources) gives both stresses without comment; the Bol'shoj tolkovyj slovar' of 1998/2004 allows only first syllable stress.
> >
> > It looks as if скОвороду may be staging a come-back; perhaps people have been out in the streets, demonstrating in its support, as they have in the case of йОгурт and договОр.* In any event judicious use of the diminutive will obviate the problem.
> >
> > John Dunn.
> >
> > *http://www.gazeta.ru/news/lenta/2010/04/25/n_1487587.shtml
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stuart Goldberg <stuart.goldberg at MODLANGS.GATECH.EDU>
> > To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
> > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:37:53 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Versification question, Tsvetaeva
> >
> > But it's бедУ and дЕва, so these can't be part of the list.
> >
> > Gramota does give скОвороду as one variant.  Never heard anyone say 
> > this. Is it an older form on its way out?
> >
> >
> >
> > John Dunn
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