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[Robert Romanchuk]

I don't know the source of the quotation, but it seems more likely to me
that "izhe" is functioning here as the (Greek) article ho, hence "Luther the
ferocious" (cf. Konstantinos ho philosophos, "Constantine the Philosopher,"
or in a naughtier context [book 12 of the Greek Anthology], Dorikon he
philephebos, "Dora who likes the young guys"). Also, this pun on Luther's
name was fairly common in Church Slavic. Best, RR

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Stuart Goldberg <
stuart.goldberg at modlangs.gatech.edu> wrote:

> I take back the "who is": "for he is"
>
>
> Stuart Goldberg wrote:
>
>> Strange no one has commented on "izhe": Luther [i.e., Cruel One], who is
>> [for he is?] cruel.
>>
>>
>> Shrager, Miriam wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> The word Ljutor refers to Martin Luther. The adjective "lut" would not
>>> have the suffix -or-. Also, the context helps here, this is about the
>>> debates of Ivan the Terrible with a pastor about faiths.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Miriam Shrager
>>> Indiana University in Bloomington
>>>
>>>  Panorama of Russia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Dear SEELANGers,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to translate the title of a book by Nikoletta Marchalis
>>>>> into
>>>>> English. Люторь иже лють. Прение о вере царя Ивана Грозного с пастором
>>>>> Рокитой. The best I can manage is Cruel of the cruel. The argument
>>>>> about
>>>>> faith between Tsar Ivan the Terrible and pastor Rokita. My native
>>>>> Russian speaking colleague doesn't accept it, but can't improve it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anybody set me straight?
>>>>>
>>>>
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