transliteration - Ukrainian & Russian to English

[Margarita Orlova]

Соловов-Solovov relates to a specific horse color (солОвая лошадка),
and Соловьёв - Solovyov originates from Solovey - the Robber
(Соловей-разбойник) of the epic poems (былИны). I see a big difference
here.

Margarita Orlova

2010/5/6 Edward Dumanis <edseelangs at gmail.com>:
> I have just found a very curious example.
> If you go to
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BE%D0%B2&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
>
> (which is simply the page you get if you google Ковальов), and
> look at the entry on that page for
> Ковальов Олександр Олександрович -- Вікіпедія
> with an option to translate, the google translation will produce a
> very strange result where Ковальов Олександр Олександрович is
> transliterated as if it were done from its Russian counterpart while
> the Ukrainian capital has a proper transliteration from Ukrainian.
> What could a possible reason for this inconsistency?
> I wonder.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Edward Dumanis
>
> 2010/5/6 Edward Dumanis <edseelangs at gmail.com>:
>> I am sorry for choosing not a very good example.
>> I am interested in transliteration of any name ending as ЬОВ in Ukrainian.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Edward Dumanis
>>
>> 2010/5/6 Natalia Pylypiuk <natalia.pylypiuk at ualberta.ca>:
>>> Mr. Dumanis,
>>>
>>> The correct spelling in Ukrainian is  СОЛОВЙОВ.  In other words, there is a
>>> Й where you propose a Ь.
>>>
>>> Therefore, according to the LC system it will be rendered as Soloviov.
>>>
>>> According to the International Standard it will be rendered Solovjov.
>>>
>>> For a chart comparing the two academic systems, please visit;
>>> http://www.arts.ualberta.ca/~ukraina/resources/translit_systems/academic_translit/
>>>
>>> I am not acquainted with the system of the State department.  But I will
>>> assume that it would render
>>> СОЛОВЙОВ  as  Solovyov.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Natalia Pylypiuk, PhD, Professor
>>> Ukrainian Culture, Language & Literature Program
>>> [www.arts.ualberta.ca/~ukraina/]
>>> Modern Languages & Cultural Studies
>>> University of Alberta
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5-May-10, at 11:53 PM, Edward Dumanis wrote:
>>>
>>>> It would be nice but I always saw Ukrainian СОЛОВЬОВ rendered as SOLOVOV.
>>>> Isn't it so?
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Edward Dumanis
>>>>
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