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Gasan Gusejnov gusejnov at GOOGLEMAIL.COM
Mon May 10 15:48:59 UTC 2010


A discussion of what the Victory Day means for the new generations is a
crossroad of the major discussions of what Stalin / CPSU / NKVD, etc. mean
for Russia now and in the nearest future.
Is Stalin's and Lenin's legacy similar to Hitler's and NS legacy for modern
Germany?
Or is their legacy similar to, say, that of Churchill for Britain?

Is it good that we paid for the new Russian Democracy with the old Russian
Colonies?
Is it good or bad for modern Russia to have Caucasus under control at any
price?
Is it good or bad for modern Russia to dominate Ukraine or to divide
Georgia?

This is just a part of questions for which you won't find any unanimity
either in Russian Federation or elsewhere in the former Soviet Union.

Just have a look at the discussions going on
here<http://www.forbesrussia.ru/blogpost/49003-falshivyi-mai>and
here <http://lenta.ru/columns/2010/05/10/victory/>.

Best,
gg





On 10 May 2010 17:19, /Elena Baraban/ <Elena_Baraban at umanitoba.ca> wrote:

>  I wish to comment on yesterday's messages.
>
>  I find it strange that in North America, a discussion of what the Victory
> Day still means for people (most?/many? people) from the former USSR,
> immediately becomes an opportunity of framing these people's sentiments in
> terms of Stalinism or neo-Stalinism.
>
>  Yesterday, many of my friends (people between 28-70 years old) who had
> left the Soviet Union or Russia long time ago or were born somewhere in
> outside Russia from parents of the post-1917 immigration got together,
> called each other or at east sent e-mails to mark the V-Day... What does
> Stalinism have to do with it? Maybe instead of labling war experience that
> makes sense to Russians (and non-Russians) of different generations as
> myth it's time we find a slightly different framework for discussing war
> narratives, old and new?
>
>  I have no idea what's the source of the information posted below re: the
> Russians' complete unaware of the American and British participation in th
> war against Hitler... But I do remember watching a documentary that featured
> interviews with college students from US who were completely unaware of the
> Soviet contribution to the victory over fascism. One of these people even
> stated that the war was actually between US and the USSR...
>
>  On V-E Day (8 May) a Candian radio station mentioned celebrations of V-E
> Day in Ottawa, London, Washington, and New York, and about the
> veterans...  And not a single word of how the Victory Day is celebrated in
> the former USSR... As if the Cold-war mentality is to stay here forever...
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Elena
>
>  At Sun, 9 May 2010 17:13:39 -0400, Alina Israeli wrote:
>
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