65-letie dnya pobedy

[Inna Caron]

For people like me, a daughter and granddaughter of blokadniki, or my best friend, whose grandmother has a number on her arm, or most authors of the Russian posts in the last couple of days, yesterday was not about political discourse and theories on system vs. system. It was about remembering our loved ones and honoring their sacred memory.

As I recall, someone was recently banned from SEELANGS for imposing their political views where Polish national tragedy was concerned. I wish those whose interest in present subject is primarily theoretical would grant us the same respect, at least this one day a year.



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Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] 65-letie dnya pobedy

A discussion of what the Victory Day means for the new generations is a crossroad of the major discussions of what Stalin / CPSU / NKVD, etc. mean for Russia now and in the nearest future.
Is Stalin's and Lenin's legacy similar to Hitler's and NS legacy for modern Germany?
Or is their legacy similar to, say, that of Churchill for Britain?

Is it good that we paid for the new Russian Democracy with the old Russian Colonies?
Is it good or bad for modern Russia to have Caucasus under control at any price?
Is it good or bad for modern Russia to dominate Ukraine or to divide Georgia?

This is just a part of questions for which you won't find any unanimity either in Russian Federation or elsewhere in the former Soviet Union.

Just have a look at the discussions going on here<http://www.forbesrussia.ru/blogpost/49003-falshivyi-mai>and
here <http://lenta.ru/columns/2010/05/10/victory/>.

Best,
gg





On 10 May 2010 17:19, /Elena Baraban/ <Elena_Baraban at umanitoba.ca> wrote:

>  I wish to comment on yesterday's messages.
>
>  I find it strange that in North America, a discussion of what the 
> Victory Day still means for people (most?/many? people) from the 
> former USSR, immediately becomes an opportunity of framing these 
> people's sentiments in terms of Stalinism or neo-Stalinism.
>
>  Yesterday, many of my friends (people between 28-70 years old) who 
> had left the Soviet Union or Russia long time ago or were born 
> somewhere in outside Russia from parents of the post-1917 immigration 
> got together, called each other or at east sent e-mails to mark the 
> V-Day... What does Stalinism have to do with it? Maybe instead of 
> labling war experience that makes sense to Russians (and non-Russians) 
> of different generations as myth it's time we find a slightly 
> different framework for discussing war narratives, old and new?
>
>  I have no idea what's the source of the information posted below re: 
> the Russians' complete unaware of the American and British 
> participation in th war against Hitler... But I do remember watching a 
> documentary that featured interviews with college students from US who 
> were completely unaware of the Soviet contribution to the victory over 
> fascism. One of these people even stated that the war was actually between US and the USSR...
>
>  On V-E Day (8 May) a Candian radio station mentioned celebrations of 
> V-E Day in Ottawa, London, Washington, and New York, and about the 
> veterans...  And not a single word of how the Victory Day is 
> celebrated in the former USSR... As if the Cold-war mentality is to stay here forever...
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Elena
>
>  At Sun, 9 May 2010 17:13:39 -0400, Alina Israeli wrote:
>
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