Russian Equivalent?

[Krafcik, Patricia]

Thank you, Alina and Svitlana, for your suggestions! And yes, Melissa, 
references to shields and the dead on shields would be dangerous for
an American football crowd. Fortunately, and somewhat amusing (I 
think) would be to apply that phrase to a cross-country team!
Pat


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From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list on behalf of Melissa Smith
Sent: Fri 9/3/2010 10:33 AM
To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Russian Equivalent?
 
Those are dangerous sounds for an American football crowd!
 
On 9/3/10 1:01 PM, Svetlana Malykhina wrote:
> Dear Patricia,
>  
> The following sport slogan is often used: 
>  
> ?? ????? ??? ?? ????
>  
> This laconic phrase originated from Spartan war-tradition: when 
Spartan men went to war, their women would give them their shields and 
wish them luck by saying "Come home with your shield or upon it," 
meaning that true Spartans could only return to Sparta either 
victorious (with their shield in hand) or dead (carried upon it). 
>  
> Svitlana 
>  --- On Fri, 3/9/10, Alina Israeli <aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Alina Israeli <aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU>
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Russian Equivalent?
> To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
> Date: Friday, 3 September, 2010, 18:09
> 
> 
> Not as a cheer:
> 
> ??? ??? ??????.
> ?????? ??? ??????.
> 
> Sep 2, 2010, ? 12:19 PM, Krafcik, Patricia ???????(?):
> 
> > Quick Question, Colleagues:
> > 
> > My son's cross-country running friends at high school want to place 
on their
> > T-shirts the Russian equivalent of this phrase: "Go big or go home!" 
meaning
> > "Do it all the way or don't do it at all!" or something to this 
effect. I've gotten
> > suggestions from friends, but our efforts thus far seem simply too 
literate,
> > and not "slangy" enough. Is there some way to express this idea in 
good Russian
> > slang?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
> > Pat Krafcik
> > The Evergreen State College
> > krafcikp at evergreen.edu
> > 
> 
> Alina Israeli
> Associate Professor of Russian
> LFS, American University
> 4400 Massachusetts Ave.
> Washington DC 20016
> (202) 885-2387     fax (202) 885-1076
> aisrael at american.edu
> 
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Department of Foreign Languages and 
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Youngstown State University
Youngstown, OH 44555
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