translation help

[Krystyna Steiger]

Dear George, Steve and Nataliya,
 thanks so much for clearing up my shtatskii mundir question on-list and 
off, you've all been a great help!
very best wishes to all,
Krystyna
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Hawrysch" <zolotar at INTERLOG.COM>
To: <SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] translation help


> No contradiction. In that period, it was common for people
> to wear uniform-like clothing associated with social rank or
> professional affiliation. Court workers, orchestra members,
> guards and servants of all kinds... And people with money or
> title would wear sabers, epaulettes, brass buttons, etc. as
> a matter of course. The St. Stanislaus pin suggests this is
> a government employee.
>
> Since "мундир" refers to military dress, "штатский" is just
> a way to indicate a civilian in uniform. I would translate
> the term as "civil service uniform."
>
> George Hawrysch
>
>> in my P'etsukh text there is a photo of an old man dressed in a 
>> "штатский мундир" (shtatskii mundir)  of the pre-Revolutionary  period, 
>> with brass buttons, and on which there is pinned a St.  Stanilaus cross.
>> Any ideas on how I should translate "в штатском мундире" (v  shtatskom 
>> mundire)? Do the two terms not contradict each other?  Is  there such a 
>> thing as a "civillian full-dress uniform"?
>> Any help would be great, on or off list.
>> with best wishes to all,
>> Krystyna
>> steiger at rogers.com
>
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