gorodishka

[Jules Levin]

On 6/19/2011 12:28 PM, Alina Israeli wrote:
> I know some may see it as OCD.
>
>
> It occurred ot me that nominative is not telling at all. So I googled 
> Instrumental. And the result is amazing:
>
> About 19,300 results for городишкой
>
> About 36,700 results for городишком
>
> About 2:1 prefer masculine to feminine.
>
> Another noun:
>
> About 12,900 results for домишком
>
> About 11,100 results for домишкой
>
> So in reality about half of the tokens are for masculine and half for 
> feminine.
>
> Not all feminine varieties are that lucky:
>
> About 22,600 results for умишкой
>
> About 264,000 results for умишком
>
> almost 12:1, however the sheer number of examples with умишкой forces 
> me to pause and think.
>
>
> So maybe the 6th edition of Zaliznjak could have some modifications in 
> this area.
>
> AI
>
> Jun 18, 2011, в 5:30 PM, Alina Israeli написал(а):
I am relying on old memory and am not checking, but this reminds me of 
what you get with the SGR dialects that lose the neuter
gender.  You get a "fem" noun, which takes fem. agreement, but a mixed 
declension, with an Acc. in -u:  e.g., mestu, but Inst. mestom.
So let's see what gorodishko, umishko have in the Acc. case.
Jules Levin
Los Angeles





>
>> The difference between gorodishka and gorodishko is the spelling of 
>> the final unstressed [a]. Clearly Lermontov and Pushkin lived before 
>> there was a standardized spelling, Academy dictionary etc. Old 
>> Pushking editions had various spelling of the same word on occasion. 
>> This may be contemporary convention: fem. nouns we spell -ishka, 
>> masc. nouns we spell -ishko. But there is not a single masc. noun 
>> listed in Zaliznjak in -ishka.
>>
>>
>> Jun 16, 2011, в 9:22 PM, Kevin Windle написал(а):
>>
>>> There may be very few inanimates, but gorodishka is another (in 
>>> addition to domina, cited by Denis). Authoritative editions of 
>>> Lermontov's Geroi nashego vremeni have: Taman' samyi skvernyi 
>>> gorodishka ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Google tells me, however, that some editions prefer -ishko: samyi 
>>> skvernyi gorodishko.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> Alina Israeli
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> LFS, American University
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