Is it of much use?

[Alina Israeli]

"I have been reading" and "I had been reading" are totally missing and  
do not have pigeon holes in this triad system it seems.

Alina

On Mar 8, 2012, at 6:41 AM, anne marie devlin wrote:

> Dear Konstantin (+ John),
> the proposed model is basically a separation of tense and aspect.   
> The tense refers to the basic times when an action/state happens i.e  
> past present and future and the aspects refer to what I always refer  
> to as additional information.
> An example could be the verb to read.
>
> In the present tense there are 3 aspects: I read, I am reading and I  
> have read.  I read is the simple and refers to habitual use.  I am  
> reading is continuous/progressive which is now or temporary and the  
> really difficult is the perfect aspect which can refer to result or  
> experience.  this can also be developed to I have been reading which  
> can often answer the question 'how long?'
>
> In the past this is realised as I read (red), I was reading and I  
> had read with the aspectual meaning being comparative.
>
> I the future it would be I will read, I will be reading and I will  
> have read.
>
> I think it's a useful model and I often present it as tense + extra  
> information.
>
> Regards
> AM
>
>
>> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 11:17:26 +0000
>> From: John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK
>> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Is it of much use?
>> To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
>>
>> Konstantin,
>>
>> It might be helpful if you could illustrate this scheme using a  
>> real verb. Though I am old enough to have been given a reasonably  
>> formal grounding in English grammar at school, one part of the  
>> system that was never properly explained to us was the tense system  
>> of the verb, perhaps because the model that underlay the grammar  
>> that we were taught was more appropriate for Latin than for  
>> English. I mention this because one consequence of my ignorance is  
>> that whenever I come across an account of the English tense system  
>> intended for foreign learners, I find the terminology rather  
>> mystifying and often at odds with my own intuitive understanding.
>>
>> John Dunn.
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures  
>> list [SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Goloviznin Konstantin [kottcoos at GMAIL.COM 
>> ]
>> Sent: 08 March 2012 11:18
>> To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
>> Subject: [SEELANGS] Is it of much use?
>>
>> Hello Seelangers,
>>
>> I think this should be of some interest or even more... Some linguist
>> (= teacher of English from Saint-Petersburg) has proposed a system of
>> English tenses. Instead of these he uses three times (=Past, Present,
>> Future) and three + 1 types of actions: one-time actions (=simple
>> tenses), processes or long-time actions (=progerssive ), results (=
>> perfects) + long-time results (= progressive perfects). That is, in
>> every of Past, Present, Future you can have three + 1 type of  
>> actions.
>>
>> I see it real simpification in understanding what English tenses
>> really are. From another hand this classifier is universal because of
>> applicable to any language (for Russian as example).
>>
>> And from the third hand, I consider a methodic having this classifier
>> in as a real hit, but others see it a miss.
>>
>> Looking forward to your posts, Konstantin.
>>
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Alina Israeli
Associate Professor of Russian
LFS, American University
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