poedyvaet

william ryan wfr at SAS.AC.UK
Mon Sep 3 10:51:55 UTC 2012


Dear Josh,
Yes, that much is clearly so, although I would rather describe it as an 
assimilation than an analogy. My question was perhaps too briefly 
formulated - more precisely, why has a original yat' been treated as 
ye>yo only in poedyvat' but not in poedat', poest', and especially 
poedovat' (which has the same stress pattern), all from the same verb 
stem? The suggestion of facetiousness arises because there is a kind of 
word game played in both Russian and English (and no doubt in most other 
languages) where anomalous forms are deliberately used for a particular 
effect. E.g. old Russian joke: Conductor on bus: "Mestov net. Reply: 
Padezhov ne znaesh'!". What I really wanted to know is if an educated 
Russian is comfortable with the yo in поёдывает or regards it as either 
substandard or facetious or in any other way stylistically marked.
Regards,
Will

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On 03/09/2012 02:17, Josh Pennington wrote:
>
> Dear Will,
>   It's an analogical extension of /e/ to /o/
> under stress.
>
> -Josh
>
> On Aug 30, 2012 9:10 PM, "William Ryan" <wfr at sas.ac.uk 
> <mailto:wfr at sas.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Is поёдывает a facetious usage? Etymologically the ё should be é,
>     as in poéduet.
>
>     Will Ryan
>
>     On 30/08/2012 14:23, Alina Israeli wrote:
>
>         поёдывает
>
>         On Aug 30, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Gladney, Frank Y wrote:
>
>             Dear Russian speakers,
>
>             Google.ru offers numerous attestations for the verb form
>             _poedyvaet_ 'eats'. How is the root vowel pronounced?
>
>             Frank Y. Gladney
>
>         Alina Israeli
>         Associate Professor of Russian
>         LFS, American University
>         4400 Massachusetts Ave.
>         Washington DC 20016
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