Russian gender colours & forks

[Robert Orr]

I use "tine" as well.

Related to "tind(ur) which appears in both Continental and Insular  Scandinavian in the meaning  "mountain peak "

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On 2012-09-21, at 12:14 PM, Kent Russell <kentrussell at MUSEUMOFRUSSIANICONS.ORG> wrote:

> I'm a "tine" 17th century person too, but it's fairly common usage still for what some people call progs...
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> In the dining room, I would call the eating surface "tines;" I think I would use "prongs" to describe the functional part of a pitchfork or carving knife. It might be the WASP in me that makes this distinction, but my family has been American since the 17th century.
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> Melissa Smith
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> On 9/21/12 6:03 AM, John Dunn wrote:
>> My wife, who is Scottish, call them tines, but I hadn't heard the word
> before moving to Glasgow.  According to Chambers Dictionary the word can also be used with reference to a harrow or a deer's horn.
>> 
>> John Dunn.  
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> [SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Simon Beattie [Simon at SIMONBEATTIE.CO.UK]
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>> Just an aside, but does no one else call  wo "tines", rather than
> "prongs"?
>> Perhaps it's only British English usage, and limited usage at that.
>> 
>> Simon
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Dunn
>> Sent: 21 September 2012 09:57
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>> Although Elena Molokhovets in her Подарокъ молодымъ хозяйкамъ [Podarok"
>> molodym" xozjajkam"], first published in 1901, has a picture of
> carving fork
>> with but three prongs.
>> 
>> John Dunn.
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>> [SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Irina Rodimtseva
> [air3 at FRONTIER.COM]
>> Sent: 21 September 2012 02:45
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>> I don't know how representative this is, but all pre-revolutionary
> forks
>> that were still in use in the late 1900s in the families I know had 4 
>> prongs.
>> 
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Allan, Kenneth<mailto:kenneth.allan at ULETH.CA>
>> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU<mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 18:56
>> Subject: [SEELANGS] Russian gender colours & forks
>> 
>> I have two questions about Russian domestic culture circa 1880s-1920s.
>> 
>> Was it the norm then to associate the colour pink with the feminine
> and blue
>> with masculine, as in Western Europe and North America?
>> 
>> Also, did forks in kitchen and dining use commonly have 3 prongs or 4?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kenneth Allan
>> 
>> University of Lethbridge
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