Russian gender colours & forks

[Kent Russell]

I'm a "tine" 17th century person too, but it's fairly common usage still for what some people call progs...

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In the dining room, I would call the eating surface "tines;" I think I would use "prongs" to describe the functional part of a pitchfork or carving knife. It might be the WASP in me that makes this distinction, but my family has been American since the 17th century.

Melissa Smith

On 9/21/12 6:03 AM, John Dunn wrote:
> My wife, who is Scottish, call them tines, but I hadn't heard the word
before moving to Glasgow.  According to Chambers Dictionary the word can also be used with reference to a harrow or a deer's horn.
> 
> John Dunn.  
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[SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Simon Beattie [Simon at SIMONBEATTIE.CO.UK]
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> Just an aside, but does no one else call  wo "tines", rather than
"prongs"?
> Perhaps it's only British English usage, and limited usage at that.
> 
> Simon
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> [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Dunn
> Sent: 21 September 2012 09:57
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> Although Elena Molokhovets in her Подарокъ молодымъ хозяйкамъ [Podarok"
> molodym" xozjajkam"], first published in 1901, has a picture of
carving fork
> with but three prongs.
> 
> John Dunn.
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> [SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Irina Rodimtseva
[air3 at FRONTIER.COM]
> Sent: 21 September 2012 02:45
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> 
> I don't know how representative this is, but all pre-revolutionary
forks
> that were still in use in the late 1900s in the families I know had 4 
> prongs.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Allan, Kenneth<mailto:kenneth.allan at ULETH.CA>
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU<mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 18:56
> Subject: [SEELANGS] Russian gender colours & forks
> 
> I have two questions about Russian domestic culture circa 1880s-1920s.
> 
> Was it the norm then to associate the colour pink with the feminine
and blue
> with masculine, as in Western Europe and North America?
> 
> Also, did forks in kitchen and dining use commonly have 3 prongs or 4?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kenneth Allan
> 
> University of Lethbridge
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Youngstown State University
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