Russian gender colours & forks

Allan, Kenneth kenneth.allan at ULETH.CA
Fri Sep 21 22:52:43 UTC 2012


I have to admit I would never use the word “tine,” although I might if I spent a little more time researching the fabulous world of Russian forks! (My background is south-central Ontario, and a step back—Hebridean Scottish.) “Tine” does sound a little more elegant though, grouped together in a fork as a resting and carrying tool for food, in distinction to “prong” which suggests to me more of a stabbing or skewering implement.

Best,
Kenneth Allan

University of Lethbridge


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This is curious.  In my usage (which I suppose would be Northern English), "tine" would be used of a garden fork and "prong" of a table fork.  The distinction between the two is evidently fluid, and possibly regional.  As always, one is a little disconcerted to find that one's own usage is not universal.


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Just an aside, but does no one else call them "tines", rather than "prongs"?
Perhaps it's only British English usage, and limited usage at that.

Simon


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Although Elena Molokhovets in her Подарокъ молодымъ хозяйкамъ [Podarok"
molodym" xozjajkam"], first published in 1901, has a picture of carving fork
with but three prongs.

John Dunn.
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I don't know how representative this is, but all pre-revolutionary forks
that were still in use in the late 1900s in the families I know had 4
prongs.


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Subject: [SEELANGS] Russian gender colours & forks

I have two questions about Russian domestic culture circa 1880s-1920s.

Was it the norm then to associate the colour pink with the feminine and blue
with masculine, as in Western Europe and North America?

Also, did forks in kitchen and dining use commonly have 3 prongs or 4?

Thanks,
Kenneth Allan

University of Lethbridge
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