Analogs of Vysotsky

[William Kerr]

Vadim et al ...

The late Pete Seeger may well be one you should not overlook.

Success with your project!

William Kerr
Koc Universitesi
Istanbul



On 8 February 2014 15:52, Sentinel76 Astrakhan <thysentinel at hotmail.com>wrote:

> I'd love to hear the arguments for Marley.  I know next to nothing about
> him.
>
> So let's look at the following list:
>
> Dylan, Lennon, Morrison, Cash, Waits, Cohen, Marley, Springsteen
>
> Elvis, with the biggest popularity and impact of them all, IMO was never
> really considered a "serious artist / poet" AFAIK (feel free to correct
> me), which excludes him from this conversation (same as, say Michael
> Jackson).
>
> If I were to rank them IN TERMS OF POPULARITY AND IMPACT, would the
> ranking be:
>
> 1. *Lennon*.  Universal appeal.  I admit knowing very little about his
> solo career (I know his Beatles catalog very well).
>
> 2. *Dylan*.  Much more limited appeal, but his subject matters seem to be
> closer to Vysotsky's.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2mabTnMHe8
>
> 3. *Morrison*.  Cumulatively (from the beginning and until today) he
> probably trumps Dylan, but he was never a solo artist, owning at least some
> of his success to his band, so I have to place him below.  Universal
> appeal, has the same "dark vibe" as Vysotsky, but was definitely more on
> the rock side.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSsnugCi_NQ
>
> 4. *Cash*.  More limited appeal, but seems similar in subject matters.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bwfm7-uNS4
>
> 5. *Springsteen*.  Universal appeal, but more on a rock side.  Was he
> "deep" enough to be considered a serious poet?
>
> 6. *Cohen*.  Know nothing about him.  From what I've heard, the energy
> and "power" is not there.  Please fill me in.
>
> 7. *Marley*.  Know nothing about him.
>
> 8. *Waits*.  See "Cohen."  Plus the popularity & impact aren't there.
> But his voice surely matches.
> ???
>
> I'd love to hear ALL reasoning (and some examples too).
>
> Yours truly,
> Vadim Astrakhan
> www.vvinenglish.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 17:03:48 -0800
> From: sbishop at WILLAMETTE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] American Analogs of Vysotsky
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>
> He's not American, but I've used Bob Marley as an analogue to Vysotsky.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Sentinel76 Astrakhan <
> thysentinel at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear All, I have a question for discussion
>
> In the process of explaining my "Vysotsky in English" project to
> Americans, I frequently have to explain who Vysotsky is and what is his
> place in the Russian culture.  Many times I have heard the term "Russian
> Dylan" thrown around.  In my opinion, there are more differences than
> similarities.
>
> Both Vladimir Vysotsky and Bob Dylan were exceptional singer-songwriters,
> who rose to fame in the 60s, played guitar, and brought on social change
> with their tremendous body of work.  Both wrote highly intelligent and
> politically charged poetry.  But in my opinion this is where the
> similarities end.
> Would it be correct to rank the podium of *relevant* American music as
> (1) Elvis
> (2) Dylan
> (3) Cash?
> Or would Springsteen and Morrison crawl in there somewhere?
>
> What do you think?
>
> Vadim Astrakhan
> www.vvinenglish.com
>
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