Famous and productive families in Russian and Czech histories

Oleksandr Spirin oleksandr.spirin at YMAIL.COM
Mon Jun 16 13:58:38 UTC 2014


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On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 9:34 PM, Mila Saskova-Pierce <msaskova-pierce1 at UNL.EDU> wrote:
 


Dear Seelangsers, thank you for the thoughtful answers to my question concerning Russian culturally productive families.  I will make a list of them and post it later. And of course the list of the Czech families as well. (Havel family included!) 
And yes, I am looking for genetic as well as marriage formed ties.  After all family is the basic platform for emerging creativity as well as collaborative cultural production.  I plan to use this material for a unit on family (in a composition and conversation class), where students construct the family trees of famous Russian families  and make a tally of their accomplishments.  
 
Gratefully Mila S-P
 
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PS

I forgot to mention Dziga Vertov (pseudonym for D. Kaufman), Mikhail Kaufman, and Elizaveta Svilova (married to D. Kaufman).

And having thought of this example, I've now some questions.  The Kaufman brothers were born in Poland, but they spent their adult lives living and working in the USSR, in Russia and Ukraine.  So we can't say they're Czech, but should they join the Russian
 list?

Also, is the list supposed to include culturally productive people who share genetic material, or culturally productive people who together populate a social institution called "family?"  In other words, does E. Svilova, who was a great film editor, count as
 a Kaufman or a Svilova? Does Sophia Tolstaya count as a Tolstoy or a Behrs? (And back to my previous tongue-in-cheek comment, does Catherine II count as a Romanov or a von Anhalt-Zerbst-Dornburg?)

If we're counting spouses as members of the same family, then Zinaida Gippius and Dmitri Merezhkovsky should go on this list for Russia (but under which surname?).  As should, of course, Nadezhda and Osip Mandelstam and Lilia and Osip Brik.

And what of Liubov' Mendeleeva?  A mark for Mendeleev or Blok?

On that subject, we could include Andrei Bely (pseudonym for Boris Bugaev) and his father, Nikolai Bugaev.

Let's not forget the Bulgakovs.

Some more filmmakers:  Sergei Bondarchuk, Fedor Bondarchuk, Natalya Bondarchuk.

Sergei Bodrov, Sergei Bodrov Jr.

As for infamous, some of the Tolstoys should count (I'm thinking of Ivan the American), and do the Ul'ianov brothers count?  And if we're considering family a social institution instead of shared genetic material, then under the infamous we could perhaps list
 the Baron van Heeckeren and his adopted son Georges-Charles de Heeckeren d'Anthes, although "culturally destructive" might apply better to the latter than "culturally productive."


Ivan S. Eubanks, Ph. D.
Editor, Pushkin Review
www.pushkiniana.org
Director, Center for Writing and Communication
New Economic School, Moscow
www.nes.ru
On 11/06/14 10:16, Anna Giust wrote:
What about Glinka on the Russian side? 
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>Anna Giust
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>Il giorno 11/giu/2014, alle ore 03:26, Mila Saskova-Pierce ha scritto:
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>Dear SEELANGERS, I am looking for the names of famous and culturally productive Russian and Czech families, such as Pushkin family, Mikhalkov, Tolstoy, on the Russian side, and Dvorak, Capek, Masaryk, and Benes on the Czech side.  Do you have any other names you could suggest?  And if you know of some infamous family, that might be interesting as well. Thank you very much.  Mila Saskova-Pierce
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>>Dr. Mila Saskova-Pierce
>>Department of Modern Languages
>>Other Languages Section Head
>>1219 Oldfather Hall
>>Lincoln, NE 68588-0315
>>Tel:  402 472 1336
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