Bows (IO tradition)/Yankton sociology (fwd)

Koontz John E John.Koontz at colorado.edu
Mon Jul 23 23:08:40 UTC 2001


Unlurking very much appreciated. The comment on the irregularity of the
second term *ahta or *a?ta is interesting, as this is the one that
resembled PI *a?ta? that the Blair Rudes suggested was regular in
Iroquoian.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, David Costa wrote:

> Hello all...
>
> As a Lurking Algonquianist, I felt obliged to correct some of the Algonquian
> forms given previously. I should warn people that the Proto-Algonquian
> dictionary is not the most dependable place to get Algonquian data, for
> either proto-forms or daughter language cognates. The daughter language data
> is only as good as the original source from which it was taken.
>
> I apologize if this is redundant by now, or if the interested parties
> already have all these forms. I can't recall how much of this data has
> already been given here, but since I had it at hand... (These are all
> phonemic forms.)
>
> (? = glottal stop, 'E' = front mid lax vowel, @ = schwa)
>
> P.A. *me?tekwa:pyi 'bow, bowstring' (*me?tekw- 'tree, wood' + -a:py-
> 'string, cord')
>
> Miami-Illinois mihte(h)ko:pa, mihte(h)kwa:pa 'bow', mihte(h)kwa:pinti,
> mihte(h)ko:pinti 'bowstring'; also old Illinois mihtekwi & Miami mihtehki
> 'forest, timber, wood'
>
> Shawnee mtekwa, pl. mtekwa:pali 'gun' [very likely the pre-contact word for
> 'bow', obviously], mtekwa:piti 'bowstring', and hilenahkwi 'bow'; also
> mhtekwi 'tree'
>
> Ojibwe mitigwa:b 'bow', mitig 'tree'
>
> Potawatomi mt at gwap 'bow', mt at g 'tree'
>
> Fox mehtekwa (archaic) & mehtekwanwi (modern) 'arrow', mehtekwi 'tree,
> wood'; mehtekwa:pi 'bowstring' & mehte:ha 'bow'; Kickapoo mehte:ha 'bow'
>
> Menominee nemE:?tek 'my bow' (animate; as an inanimate noun mE?tek this
> means 'wood') & mE?tekuap 'bowstring, bow'
>
> Cheyenne ma?tahke 'bow'
>
> Arapaho bê:té? 'bow' & be:téyo:k 'bowstring'.
>
> Another cognate set is exemplified by Ojibwe acha:b 'bowstring', Unami
> Delaware hatá:p:i 'bow ', and the Miami-Illinois alternates ne:htia:pa
> 'bow' & ne:htia:pinti 'bowstring'. As I think has been mentioned, tho, this
> etymon is mostly found in Eastern Algonquian, along the Atlantic Coast. I
> haven't give those forms since I figure Maliseet and Unquachog aren't very
> plausible candidates for Siouan loans. :-) Incidentally, the etymon doesn't
> reconstruct cleanly. The consonant clusters line up rather poorly.
>
> Thanks for your patience. Anyway, back to my lurking. :-)
>
> best,
>
> David Costa
>



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