Ietan, Iatan, etc.

[David Costa]

In Algonquian languages, the 'Padouca' name always indicates the Comanches.

Dave

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>From: "R. Rankin" <rankin at ku.edu>
>To: <siouan at lists.colorado.edu>
>Subject: Re: Ietan, Iatan, etc.
>Date: Wed, Apr 27, 2005, 3:19 pm
>

> Yes, Padouca (padunka, padunke, padoke, etc., etc.) is
> used by several eastern plains tribes to refer to those
> ''wild'' folks 'way out West.  It refers variously to
> Apaches, Comanches and/or maybe others.  Iatan may be a
> similar name from some other source language.  Padouca
> has no real, known meaning, but, as Jimm points out, it
> gets broken down and ''analyzed'' by various tribes in
> their respective languages.
>
> I ain't holding my breath over this one either.   :-)
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rory M Larson" <rlarson at unlnotes.unl.edu>
> To: <siouan at lists.colorado.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Ietan, Iatan, etc.
>
>
>> Bob wrote:
>>> I guess the next step is to see if ANYbody called
>>> the Comanches [ayatan] or the like.
>>
>> Isn't there a confusion over whether the Padouca
>> term applied to the Commanches, or to the Plains
>> Apaches, or both?  Perhaps we should be checking
>> ethnonyms for Apaches as well as for Commanches.
>>
>> Haven't found anything hopeful in Omaha (Fletcher
>> & La Flesche).
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>