Comparative Siouan Grammar project

Wed Jun 18 18:54:19 UTC 2008

I'm glad to be back on the list, but sorry I can't attend this year.  However i will definitely come next year to Lincoln.  Best of luck to you all this year in Joplin
Bruce

--- On Tue, 17/6/08, Catherine Rudin <carudin1 at wsc.edu> wrote:
From: Catherine Rudin <carudin1 at wsc.edu>
Subject: RE: Comparative Siouan Grammar project
To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
Date: Tuesday, 17 June, 2008, 7:38 PM

I agree with Bob; it all sounds good.  Language instructors' session is a
good idea, and we should DEFINITELY get the momentum back for the comparative
Siouan grammar project.   These two ideas don't conflict - we can do both
and still have time for some regular papers at the 2009 meeting.  

I think we should devote a whole day to comparative grammar, and we should get
organized well in advance.  I wasn't able to get to Billings, and I've
forgotten which topic I said I would look at (am I the only sieve-brain?) but I
do think this is important!!! If Johannes is willing to be the organizer that
would be great.  Is there someone who will be in Joplin who could bring the
list of topics/chapters that was compiled before?  (And/or could someone
circulate it electronically?)  I suspect I'm not the only one who could use
a reminder.

I believe that Mark has not only offered, but we collectively have accepted
Lincoln as the 2009 site.  The date I have noted is "June 5-7 or
12-14".  Should we make a decision?

Let's include a quick "business meeting" in the Joplin schedule,
with confirming at least next year's plans as item #1 on the agenda. 
Tentative 2010 plans could be discussed too - Chicago or wherever.  

Apologies if any of you get two near-identical messages from me.  I tried to
reply earlier to Mark's note, but it seems to have gone only to him, not to
the list -- at least I hope that's what happened to it!  

Catherine

>>> "Rankin, Robert L" <rankin at ku.edu> 06/17/08 12:53
PM >>>
This all sounds really great to me.  Perhaps Johannes would like to be the
organizer of the comparative sessions (which might, in turn, provide an even
stronger rationale for his getting travel funds), and Mark could organize the
language instructors' sessions.  Hopefully we could schedule them so that
we could all attend both.

Bob

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From: owner-siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU on behalf of Mark J Awakuni-Swetland
Sent: Tue 6/17/2008 9:06 AM
To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
Cc: owner-siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU; siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
Subject: Re: Comparative Siouan Grammar project

Aloha Johannes, 
Many thanks for your suggestions about future SACC agendas. 
I have offered to host the 2009 gathering here in Lincoln, Nebraska (the center
of it all...or the most distant from anywhere else sort of place). 

The Dhegihanists have met here back in 2000 or so. 

I will be polling folks at Joplin about their interests regarding the agenda
for 2009. 

If there is sufficient interest in organizing a session or three on the
Comparative Siouan Grammar, Lincoln would be a good time to formalize it and
push it forward a bit. 

There may be interest in organizing a session geared towards language
instructors from on- and off-rez institutions. I would suspect that the Tribal
Colleges in NE, SD, and OK might find this useful. Omaha Nation Public School
(K-12), Walthill Public School, and Winnebago Public School could find some
value in this as well. 

Let's put on our thinking caps as we head to Joplin. 

iNcHoNxti woNgithe widoNbe ttamiNkHe. 
Uthixide 

Mark Awakuni-Swetland
Assistant Professor of Anthropology
and Native American Studies
University of Nebraska
Lincoln, NE 68588-0368

http://omahalanguage.unl.edu
Phone 402-472-3455
FAX: 402-472-9642

"Ttenixa uxpathe egoN" a biama, winisi akHa. 

"Prof. Dr. Johannes Helmbrecht"
<johannes.helmbrecht at sprachlit.uni-regensburg.de> 
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Dear Siouanists,

I regret very much that I won't be able to attend this year's SCLC in
Joplin,MO in particular because 
the program seems to be so interesting. Since I won't be personally there,
I would like to make 
some suggestions from the other end of the world for the future conferences,
which may be 
discussed during the conference in Joplin.

One of the exciting projeGrammar. 
Papers dealing with various aspects of Siouan grammar in a typological and
historical comparative 
perspective were presented there. We also compiled a list with additional
topics filling all in all at 
least two volumes. Unfortunately, this project came to a halt afterwards and I
would like to give it a 
new push. So, my suggestion would be to plan on a follow up workshop on Siouan
Comparative 
Grammar for the next year's conference, if this goal is still considered
worthy among the participants 
to invest time and research. Could you discuss this question during the coming
days? 

For me personally, this implies that I will revise and expand my paper on
applicatives in Siouan. In 
addition, I volunteered for the causative constructions (if I recall that
correctly), so I will start to work 
on a draft version on this topic that will be presented at the conference next
year.

Another important point for me is: I will be able to come next only, if I can
get funding for an 
overseas trip. This is not too difficult to obtain in particular for such a
fascinating project, but I need 
the conference details some months in advance in order to be able to apply for
money. Therefore, I 
would like to ask you to fix a date and location for the next and if possible
for the conference in two 
years so that people from abroad have a chance to get the necessary funding.
John Boyle 
mentioned to me that he is going to organize a conference in Chicago in 2010?

Anyway, I think the meeting in Joplin could provide a good opportunity to talk
about the state of the 
art with regard to the comparative Siouan Grammar project and to plan on the
next steps. 
Personally, I would like to participate in the planning, the organization, and
the research as much as 
I can so that this project will come to a succesful end.

So, I wish all of you a wonderful and interesting meeting in Joplin,

Best,
Johannes

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Lehrstuhl für Allgemeine und Vergleichende Sprachwissenschaft
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