the benefits of ELAN

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
I blogged a few days ago about SignWriting and the availability of the
SignWriting
Image Server<http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2008/05/beta-release-of-signwriting-image.html>.
What is clear in the text is that they are going to apply for an Internet
draft in order to improve the SWIS support. What I understand is that
SignWriting is superior in relation to HamNoSys as it allows for the
registration of facial expressions.

I would love to see SignWriting to be included in UTF-8. There are two
problems; there are 33563 symbols and this requires more then the pages
reserved for it. The hope is that with SWIS it may be possible to speed the
inclusion dramatically because of the way the technology behind it ...
(SVG).
Thanks,
      Gerard

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Albert Bickford <albert_bickford at sil.org>
wrote:

>  In theory one should be able to use any appropriate transcription system
> in one of ELAN's tiers.  That is, once you've selected a section of video,
> you can create an annotation for that stretch in a particular tier, and then
> put a transcription of the data in that stretch into the annotation.  The
> catch here is that the transcription must be representable using a font that
> ELAN knows how to use.  I'm not up on all the current technical details, but
> my understand/assumption has been that ELAN only supports transcription
> systems that are supported in Unicode (and, last I checked, there was the
> additional requirement that the Unicode characters you needed had to be
> included in one particular font).  Neither SignWriting nor HamNoSys have
> been added to Unicode, although there are various people who have given
> thought to how this might be done.  (In the case of SignWriting, it's not a
> trivial question what is the best way to do so.)
>
> Now, if there were some way to attach a graphic image as an annotation in
> ELAN, then this would provide a workaround, because the graphic could
> contain an image of the SignWriting or HamNoSys transcription.  This would
> provide a human-readable annotation, although it would not be searchable.
> It would also probably be much more cumbersome than just typing in a
> transcription.
>
> If one wants annotations in ELAN that can provide some of the functions
> that a transcription would provide, then I think the main options are:
> -- a system of glosses that identifies the signs, as mentioned by Louise
> de Beuzeville in a separate post
> - a transcription system that is representable in Unicode, e.g.
> StokoeAscii (an adaptation of Stokoe notation that is representable with
> ordinary ASCII characters)
> - a coding system that represents just the
> phonetic/phonological/morphological details that you are interested in
>
> Albert Bickford
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  *From:* Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>
> *To:* A list for linguists interested in signed languages<slling-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 02, 2008 5:46 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [SLLING-L] the benefits of ELAN
>
> Is this where SingWriting / HamNoSys come in by associating it with a time
> slot in ELIAN ?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SLLING-L mailing list
> SLLING-L at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/slling-l
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/slling-l/attachments/20080505/d844fe4f/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
_______________________________________________
SLLING-L mailing list
SLLING-L at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/slling-l