the benefits of ELAN

[Adam Frost]

I have been looking into taking common parts of each of the SignWriting symbols to see how many there really are. But as Gerard mentioned, there are a few to go through. ;-) I noticed that you mentioned making a rendering engine. I have also been looking into that because no matter what method of symbols encoding is used, the placing of them will not be linear. My understanding is that the SignWriting Image Server currently works much like a rendering engine from a linear coding to spacial images. I do agree that this isn't ready to make it so that SignWriting can be UTF-8 or anything like it yet, but the SWIS is a step in the right direction. 

Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mark A. Mandel" <mamandel at ldc.upenn.edu>

Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 12:49:38 
To:slling-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Subject: Re: [SLLING-L] the benefits of ELAN


#From: "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>
#Hoi,
#I blogged a few days ago about SignWriting and the availability of the
#SignWriting
#Image Server<http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2008/05/beta-release-of-signwriting-image.html>.
#What is clear in the text is that they are going to apply for an Internet
#draft in order to improve the SWIS support. What I understand is that
#SignWriting is superior in relation to HamNoSys as it allows for the
#registration of facial expressions.
#
#I would love to see SignWriting to be included in UTF-8. There are two
#problems; there are 33563 symbols and this requires more then the pages
#reserved for it. The hope is that with SWIS it may be possible to speed the
#inclusion dramatically because of the way the technology behind it ...
#(SVG).
#Thanks,
#      Gerard

I can't believe that there are 33563 individual symbols in SW. I assume that 
these are combinations of a much smaller number of elementary symbols, in 
different spatial relationships -- a small enough set to include in UTF-8. It 
must be possible

 a. to write a way to code the relationships linearly, even if the result is not 
friendly to human readers (cf. ASCII-Stokoe, 
http://www.ldc.upenn.edu/~mamandel/ASCII-Stokoe.txt, for a solution of a similar 
though admittedly simpler problem)

 b. to build a rendering engine that will read the coded sets of elementary 
symbols and output them in the proper layout for standard presentation in, e.g.,
	- HTML
	- PDF
 	- LaTeX

 c. to also search the linear code (a) for combinations of interest
 
-- Mark A. Mandel
   Linguistic Data Consortium, University of Pennsylvania
 
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