Daniel Noelpp: Re: Position Symbols

Valerie Sutton sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Fri Jul 11 17:22:39 UTC 2003

Hello Valerie, hello friends

Today the SignWriting mailing list suddenly stopped accepting
e-mails from me. I am trying again and if it didn't work
out, Valerie will forward them for me.

I am sorry!

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:20:16 +0200 (MEST)
From: Daniel Noelpp <d.noelpp at gmx.ch>
To: SignWriting List <SW-L at ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
Subject: Position Symbols

> Hello friends
> I wrote about using "control codes" for SignWriting. I discovered
> today that Valerie and Carlos had the same idea but gave the
> thing another name: "position symbols". :-)
> What a shocking discovery! :-)
> Valerie, Carlos:
> Did I understand you correctly: "position symbols" are invisible
> symbols which control the position of the following symbol in a
> sign?
> And another question: My idea was to use "rotation symbols".
> They aren't really neccessary if all variants of the symbols
> (including the rotated and flopped versions) are kept distinct
> and not unique. Am I right?
> How many such different symbols are in the
> "Symbols-at-a-Glance" dictionary?
> http://www.signbank.org/symbolbank/sssglance/index.html
> Did you already add the position symbols to the symbol set?
> Daniel
> Carlos wrote:
>>   Yes, after talking with Valerie about the "position symbols" she
>> uses when spelling signs in SignBank, I changed my mind about the
>> possibility of encoding SW in Unicode.
>> [...]
>>   In SW, due to the writing on the two dimensions of a surface (paper
>> or screen), one needs two position information to locate a symbol,
>> let's say, its "x" and its "y" coordinates. Following the SignWriter
>> way to encoded, each such information is relative to a virtual box
>> encompassing each sign (the "signbox"), so the values of "x" and "y"
>> are kept relatively small (in fact, varying from 0 to 48).
>> [...]

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