Sunrise query...writing one symbol in front of another

Charles Butler chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Tue Jul 5 18:27:27 UTC 2005

Exactly, Valerie.  In my old SW program, I could put one sign behind the other, and expected to be able to do so.  This was my compromise using what keys I could find easily in SignPuddle.  I'd do it as you did, with a broken arrow going behind the flat edge-on hand.  It's quick, easy, and accomplishes the same thing.  
What do you think of "night_3", double-dark.  I'm not sure if I could show it clearly with a hidden arrow convention.

Valerie Sutton <sutton at> wrote:
SignWriting List
July 5th, 2005

Hello Everyone!
I hope you are enjoying July!

When writing one symbol in front of, or behind the other, there are 
two ways to write it...the detailed way, and the simplified way...

1. Detailed spellings use the Surface Symbols, which Charles has 
already shown you.

2. Simplified spellings, for everyday use, do not need the Surface 
Symbols. Instead, the symbol that is in front has a slight white halo 
or border around it so it looks like it is in front of the other 
one...Plus the white part of the palm facing for the hand in front 
does not show the lines for the arrows going through it...Writing 
this by hand is easier than by computer at the moment...A person can 
easily become skilled at writing this by hand.

By computer, in SignPuddle, Steve gave us a Place Over Button to do 
this for us automatically, but I have to re-enter many of the symbols 
in the IMWA to make the button you can see that I am not 
done with the IMWA...

So I constructed the sign for Sunrise in SignPuddle from little lines 
instead, without using the Place Over button for now...Take a look at 
two spellings for Sunrise in ASL...the second one is the simplified 
spelling which I just entered...

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