Malaysian Sign Language

Valerie Sutton sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Wed Jul 20 04:15:25 UTC 2005

SignWriting List
July 19, 2005

Stuart -
Earlier this summer, the Parkhursts telephoned me. They had just  
arrived in North Dakota and we were discussing using SignPuddle in  
their courses this summer...and on the phone Steve told me that  
someone there in North Dakota was telling them that SignWriting had  
become popular at Gallaudet or something...ask the Parkhursts to tell  
you who told them that! I understand that SignPuddle has been used by  
some of the Deaf people on campus...

And by the way, can you take some photos of your students at SIL  
learning and writing Mexican Sign Language, including maybe some of  
the signers from Mexico? Maybe you and the Parkhursts and possibly  
Al, could write a short article about your experiences with  
SignWriting this summer, and then I can improve our web page on  
SignWriting in Mexico, by updating it with the article you write?

I hope you can do that - many thanks!

Al asked me to update that page anyway, and I am happy to do that...

SignWriting in Mexico

Val ;-)


On Jul 19, 2005, at 9:01 PM, Stuart Thiessen wrote:

I'm sad to see that it was a few Deaf grads from Gallaudet who  
expressed opposition to SW.  Hopefully the deaf community in Malaysia  
will have the opportunity to evaluate SW for themselves and not let a  
few make a decision for the whole.  The challenge for us (in any  
community) is finding a way to help the majority have a chance to  
experience SW for themselves and not allow a few to block their  
access. I have seen some of that in my own sharing about SW. This is  
where it is very important for those of us who are deaf to take the  
responsibility to explain why we like it.  That makes a difference.

Just an observation,


On Jul 19, 2005, at 22:48, Aisha Shamsuna Ahmed wrote:

> Dear Hope Hurlbut,
> Thank you so much for your response. I'll try to initiate contacts  
> here in Malaysia.
> I hope I can come up with something feasible.
> Kind Regards,
> Aisha Shamsuna Ahmed
>>>> "Hope Hurlbut" <hope_hurlbut at> 7/19/2005 10:18:08 AM >>>
> Dear Aisha,
> Thank you for your enquiry.  I am sorry to have to tell you that I  
> am now in
> Canada, and do not have access to the material I collected on the sign
> language survey in Malaysia.
> I only introduced SignWriting to a couple of groups of Deaf in  
> Terengganu
> while I was there.  They were very enthusiastic about it. Later, I  
> was in
> contact with a couple of Deaf graduates from Gallaudet University,  
> and they
> were not in favour of SignWriting, so I did not pursue it further.   
> Now my
> work embraces all of Asia, so I do not have any time to work  
> further on
> Malaysian Sign Language.
> I expect to return to Malaysia toward the end of the year.  If you  
> want to
> contact me then, feel free to do so.
> Sincerely,
> Hope Hurlbut
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aisha Shamsuna Ahmed" <kcx4aas at>
> To: <hope_hurlbut at>
> Cc: <sw-l at>; <sutton at>
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 12:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] Malaysian Sign Language
> Dear Hope Hurlbut,
> Please could you provide me with some information with respect to  
> the work
> you did on Malaysian Sign Language. Most importantly would be  
> contacts here
> in Malaysia so that I could get them to evaluate a computer program  
> I intend
> to develop.
> I am a postgraduate student of the University of Nottingham  
> Malaysia Campus,
> and I am conducting research on how Sign Writing can be  
> incorporated in text
> messaging (SMS(Short Message Service)) capability of mobile phones.  
> The
> program I intend to develop would allow people to send texts  
> written in Sign
> Writing using mobile phones. It would form a part of my thesis.
> Thank you. Awaiting your response.
> Kind Regards,
> Aisha Shamsuna Ahmed
>>>> sutton at 07/17/05 12:15 AM >>>
> SignWriting List
> July 16, 2005
>> Aisha Shamsuna Ahmed wrote:
>> Just wondering though, you mentioned a project in Malaysia. Please
>> could you pass me the contact info of the participants and/or the
>> project coordinators in Malaysia.
> Hello Aisha and Everyone -
> The Malaysian Sign Language research was done by Hope Hurlbut
> (hope_hurlbut at SIL.ORG), from Canada, who moved to Malaysia to study
> the Malaysian Sign Languages, and write them in SignWriting, under
> the auspices of the Summer Institute of Linguistics (SIL).
> If you go to our web site, and you click on the Search icon at the
> top, and type in Malaysian Sign Language, and then press Search,
> these are just a few of the many many links you will find
> below...Plus you can also search our List Archives - http://
> you can search and find quite
> a lot of information...
> [PDF] ISO Codes for Sign Languages
> File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
> Lyons Sign Language. LSG. France. sgn-FR-69. Rhône. Malaysian Sign
> Language. XML Malaysia, Peninsular. sgn-MY. Maltese Sign Language ...
> docs1/sw0033-Sign-Language-Codes.pdf -
> Similar pages
> [PDF] SignWriting Year-End Report
> File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
> Sign Language Research (TISLR) included. SignWriting in several
> papers. James Kegl. presented written Nicaraguan Sign Language,. the
> writing of Malaysian ...
> docs1/sw0024-YearEnd-Report2000.pdf -
> Similar pages
> Year-End Report 2000
> Eleven different Sign Languages are used at the school, and
> SignWriting can ... Other presentations included written Malaysian
> and Italian Sign Languages. ...
> - 17k - Cached
> - Similar pages
> SignWriting List Forum
> ... Italy Italian Sign Language = ITSL country25 = Japan Japanese
> Sign Language = JSL country26 = Malaysia Malaysian Sign Language =
> MYSL country27 = Malta Maltese ...
> swlist/archive2/message/1591.html - 12k -
> Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
> SignWriting List Forum
> ... on.) The Malaysian Deaf claim that the Singaporean Deaf use SEE,
> but I wonder if it is a modified version of ASL, as most of Malaysian
> Sign Language (MSL) is. ...
> swlist/archive2/message/2743.html - 11k -
> Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
> SignWriting List Forum
> ... It > is probable that the people all understand Malaysian Sign
> Language > because when the language assistant could not remember a
> word, another > Deaf gave a ...
> swlist/archive2/message/2449.html - 7k -
> Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
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> ... could no longer understand her properly, so she made a great
> effort to switch back to Malaysian Sign Language (MSL or BIM as the
> Deaf call it - Bahasa Isyarat ...
> swlist/archive2/message/2506.html - 6k -
> Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

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