FLANDERS Question about a vertical line symbol in Flemish SignPuddle ;-)

Valerie Sutton sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Wed Nov 30 18:53:00 UTC 2005


SignWriting List
November 30, 2005

Hello Kathleen and Everyone -

Kristof had the very very hard job of writing all those signs by  
himself, with no one to help him or give him feedback...he was  
totally alone with it, as far as I know...so we can only give him  
applause for the pioneer work...I think he did an amazing job...

So this is no criticism...

But I think it is best not to use those lines...I can see the  
problems Kristof was facing, but we have other ways to write these  
signs...

This is important for me, because if we leave this, I would have the  
burden of having to start teaching it in our textbooks, or at least  
documenting a newly-developed symbol from Flanders, and that is a lot  
of work for me, and also a lot for others to learn too...when I don't  
think it is necessary...so I would like to ask if we can show this to  
your children again, but with some examples from me for other  
alternatives as well...I hope this will be ok with you? It would be a  
great help to me...

What perhaps Kristof was looking for, was to add arm lines to the  
hands, to show that they are flexing at the wrist...I will show you  
next message what I mean...

Val ;-)

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On Nov 30, 2005, at 9:23 AM, Kasterlinden Bilinguaal wrote:

> Hello Val,
>
> I first saw this in the Flemish online dictionary from Kristof, the  
> sign for working 'werken'
>
>
>
> The vertical lines represent the wrist. Kristof told me he used  
> this to make it clear how the handshape needs to be seen.
>
> I used to write 'year' like the first signs you see here. The  
> children didn't read it very well. When we changed it to the next  
> one (example 2), they red it without a problem. (now we need to  
> apply the spellingrules again ;)
>
>
>
> year (example 1)            year (example 2)
>
> Greetings kathleen ;)
>
>
> From:  "Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>
> Reply-To:  sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> To:  sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Subject:  [sw-l] FLANDERS Question about a vertical line symbol in  
> Flemish SignPuddle ;-)
> Date:  Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:08:49 -0800
> >SignWriting List
> >November 30, 2005
> >
> >>Kasterlinden Bilinguaal wrote:
> >>I just created the one I use most in the puddle ;)
> >
> >Perfect! I just looked in your SignPuddle, and found
> >it!.....smile...
> >
> >Which gives me a perfect opportunity to ask you a question...I
> >noticed in the Flemish SignPuddle that some signs have a vertical
> >line that is thick, next to square handshapes...see the attached
> >sign  for opdracht..I do not know what the vertical line means to
> >you...we  do not add a line like that, so somehow this has a meaning
> >to you in  Flanders, but nowhere else in the world that I know
> >of...can you  share with us what the vertical line means to you?...
> >smile...Val ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> ><< opdracht.gif >>
>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Bescherm je Inbox: Phishing - hoe te herkennen, rapporteren en  
> voorkomen

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