AW: [sw-l] Shurley 4

CWren at DOE.K12.GA.US CWren at DOE.K12.GA.US
Mon Apr 30 12:36:16 UTC 2007

I changed it, but thats why rotations mess with my head so badly, I think. 
 As I watch my hands sign that, I see the same motion as the sign for DEAD 
or one door open, one closes.  The hands are just closer together, so they 
move around each other as they twist...   Is the difference in the 
position of the forearm? 

Cherie Wren
GSD Staff Interpreter
232 Perry Farm Rd
Cave Spring, GA 30124
706-766-0766 Cell

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AW: [sw-l] Shurley 4

Hi Valerie, Cherie and listmembers ? 
-          well I am back online ? smile ? 
You folks have been so incredible active! Too many messages ? so that I 
will need some time to catch up with what is discussed ... 
Looking at your video Cherie ? I would write it this way 

All the best 

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[mailto:owner-sw-l at] Im Auftrag von Cherie Wren
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I always have troubles with the rotations...  that is my signing, not a 
transcription.  The two 'baby x's facing each other, then the right hand 
twists down twice and the left hand twists up twice while the palms 
continue to face each other--  best way I can describe it in words.  Here 
is a clip.
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Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:05:09 AM
Subject: RE: [sw-l] Shurley 4

I was just reading your jingle. Very interesting. :-) Very well written 
too. They only sign that I had a problem with was (I am guessing) modify. 
The way that it was written is the same movement that would be for a 
vertical "dead" or "opening the right door while closing the left door." I 
took me a few tries of signing it to see what you were saying. I think 
that the movement for modify (at least the way I sign it) is the same as 
signing class except the left hand goes the opposite way. I don't know if 
I am right in my movement writing, but I was thinking that the movement 
was better written this way. But if you are transcribing and the person 
signed it the way I mentioned before, then keep it. :-) 
PS I'll try to get a clip of my signing the two movements as a picture is 
worth a thousand words.
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