Signwriting Documents - another program?

Jonathan duncanjonathan at YAHOO.CA
Mon Mar 16 13:36:49 UTC 2009



Bill Reese wrote:
> Jonathon,
>
> By your list, you look close to a beta.   Completion of the two items 
> you mentioned that need work or you're working on, the implementation 
> of the arrow symbol chooser in SWEditor, and a rudimentary Help file 
> for those testing would seem to put you there.   Some of your "not yet 
> implemented" items look optional that can be added during the beta.
Thanks for the encouragement,  I guess if I did that I could get a Beta 
much sooner.  Some of the functions work but are a little buggy.  For 
example I can choose several symbols at once to move them around or 
deselect one but sometimes it doesn't deselect the one it's supposed 
to.  I was thinking that I should fix all of the bugs I know of before I 
release a Beta.  What do you think?
>
> I use Kubuntu, which is Ubuntu with the KDE desktop, whereas Ubuntu 
> uses Gnome.  Gnome is smaller than KDE and works faster on older 
> computers.  The KDE desktop is more Windows-like which appeals to 
> those moving over from Windows.  Ubuntu and Kubuntu have been the most 
> popular Linux distros for 3 years now and they both regularly update 
> every 6 months.
I had a quick look at some article about the two.  Do you ever run into 
cases where a program will only run on Gnome but not KDE or vice versa?

Jonathan
>
> Bill
>
>
> Jonathan y Yolaine wrote:
>> Bill,
>>     I was hoping to release a beta, but I might just go ahead and 
>> release an alpha so I can get more feed back earlier on in the 
>> development progress.   Right now it won't run on Linux.  I am still 
>> thinking of releasing it for Linux, but it depends how complex it 
>> becomes to port it to Linux. I have noticed that the Mono project to 
>> port Windows .NET programs to Linux is maturing well. 
>>     Which flavor of Linux do you use/recommend?
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> Bill Reese wrote:
>>> Jonathan,
>>>
>>> You're program list is very impressive.  I'd like to test it once 
>>> you get it to a point where you can release an alpha or beta.  Will 
>>> it be able to work on different platforms like Linux?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan wrote:
>>>> Hi Maria,
>>>>     My program called "The SignWriter Studio" has many features, 
>>>> one of them being SignWriting Documents.  It has been a big 
>>>> project.  Some of it´s goals have been faster sign input, keyboard 
>>>> input, standalone program not needing internet, multi-spoken 
>>>> language to signlanguage, sign lists to helps students learn new signs.
>>>>     I am still working on the printing routines but the goal is 
>>>> that the columns flow into the space available.  So it can do any 
>>>> size page.  I have it working were it will accommodate and re flow 
>>>> to the window size.
>>>>
>>>> Here is an update of the progress of my program.
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> *Main Feature* 	*Feature* 	*Status* 	*Comment*
>>>> *GlosstoSign* 	
>>>> 	
>>>> 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Gloss to Sign 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Phrase to Sign 	In Future version 	Match a phrase or consecutive 
>>>> words with a sign
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Pass to Document 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Insert Gloss 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Remove Gloss 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Change Gloss 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *ImageEditor* 	
>>>> 	
>>>> 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Crop 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Convert to Black and White 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Open/Save Image File 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Eraser 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Resize 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Contrast 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Brightness 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Undo/Redo 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *Import Export* 	
>>>> 	
>>>> 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Import SBML 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Export SBML 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Import SignText URL 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Export SignText URL 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Import from another copy TheSignWriterStudio 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Choose Gloss Language 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Choose Dictionary Sign Language 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *Options* 	
>>>> 	
>>>> 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Choose User Interface Language 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Choose User Interface Sign Language 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Choose First Gloss Language 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Choose Second Gloss Language 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Choose Dictionary Sign Language 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *SignList* 	
>>>> 	
>>>> 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Add/Rename/Choose/Delete SignList 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Add/Rename/Choose/Order/Delete SignList Sub Titles 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Add/Choose/Delete SignList Sub Title Signs from Dictionary 
>>>> Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Display Sign 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Mark Signs not in any previous Sub Title 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Print List 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Print Preview 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Export to Image File for Slide Show 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *SWDictionary* 	
>>>> 	
>>>> 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Search Bilingual Gloss 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Search Unilingual Gloss 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Add New Sign 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Duplicate Sign 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Edit SignWriting in SWEditor 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Edit Image in ImageEditor 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Import 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Export 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Copy/Paste SignWriting 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Copy/Paste Picture of Sign 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Copy/Paste Photo 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	SignLanguage to SignLanguage 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Synonyms 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Antonyms 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Sign one must not confuse with 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Sign Definition 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Sign Example 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Sign Parts-of-Speech 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Sign Mnemonic 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *SWDocument* 	
>>>> 	
>>>> 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Add/Edit SignWriting in SWEditor 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Add Sign from Dictionary 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Add/Edit Image in ImageEditor 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Add Image from File 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Remove Sign/Image 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Move Sign/Image 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Copy Sign to Clipboard 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Sign Move Drag and Drop 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Switch Sign Lanes 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Set Sign Bottom Margin 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Edit Gloss 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Copy Image to Clipboard 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Save Sign back to Dictionary 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Symbol and Sign Gloss tool tip 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Save/Load Document 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Import 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Export 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Print 	Needs work
>>>> 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Print Preview 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Page Setup 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Show/Hide glosses 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Start new column 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *SWEditor* 	
>>>> 	
>>>> 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Spread Symbols 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Setup Offsets for all heads 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Torso Symbol Chooser 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	EyeGaze Symbol Chooser 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Favority Sign Parts 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Listing of all Symbol Groups 	Needs Work 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Arrow Symbol Chooser 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Change Symbol Color 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Copy/Paste SignWriting 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Add/Change Frames 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Change Background Color 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Copy Image of Sign 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Undo/Redo 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Hand Shape Search 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Add/Remove/Choose Favorite Symbol 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Mouseless Writing 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Hand Symbol Chooser 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Hand Shape Rotation/Fill Chooser 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Add/Remove/Order Sequence 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	General Symbol Chooser 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Overlap Symbols 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Symbol Drag and Drop 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Duplicate Symbols 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Change Symbol size 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Multiple Symbol Selection 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Move Symbol Above/Below 	Working 	
>>>> *SWSearch* 	
>>>> 	
>>>> 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Exact Match 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Group Match 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Fill Match 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Rotation Match 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Any Match 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Synonym Symbol in other plane 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Sign Similarity 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Working 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *SWQuizes* 	
>>>> 	
>>>> 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Multiple Choice SignWriting 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Multiple Choice Gloss 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>>> *SWAnimation* 	
>>>> 	
>>>> 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	SignWriting to Animation Files 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Help 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Globalized 	In Future version 	
>>>> *SWAvatar* 	
>>>> 	
>>>> 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	SignWriting to Avatar script 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Help 	In Future version 	
>>>> *
>>>> * 	Globalized 	In Future version 	
>>>> *SWReceptive* 	Expresive to Receptive 	In Future version 	
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> MARIA AZZOPARDI wrote:
>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>
>>>>> All the features mentioned are exactly what I need, but the most imp one
>>>>> is that when you add a column of signwriting in the middle of the
>>>>> document, all following columns move to accomodate it.  Like writing
>>>>> spoken languages in Word, you can insert a paragraph wherever you like and
>>>>> everything else moves to accomodate it (I don't know what this is called
>>>>> in technical terms, I'm sure there is a word for it :)
>>>>>
>>>>> So you are working on a program for signwriting documents?
>>>>>
>>>>> What about the option of printing A5 is that possible in this program?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your response,
>>>>>
>>>>> Maria
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>> Hi Maria,
>>>>>>     I don't know of any other program yet.  Mine is progressing but
>>>>>> unfinished.  My document suite lets the document flow on the screen from
>>>>>> one column to the next.  I haven't done the printing part yet but was
>>>>>> intending to do it in similar fashion. So when you add some text, what
>>>>>> doesn't fit on one page flows to the next, etc.   The idea is also to be
>>>>>> able to have inline pictures within any of the 3 lanes of the column.  I
>>>>>> can also have gloss on the signwriting or not.
>>>>>>     Is this what you were wanting?  What other editing features would be
>>>>>> important for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MARIA AZZOPARDI wrote:
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was wondering if anyone on the list has experience transferring long
>>>>>>> signwriting documents into another program (such as DocumentMaker) and
>>>>>>> maybe could suggest another program which is a little more flexible?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DocumentMaker is very good of course, however I am thinking in terms of
>>>>>>> very long documents and one limitation in DocumentMaker is the
>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>> Say you have completed 50 pages, then whilst editing you realise you
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> to add another column somewhere inbetween, say at page 25, if you add
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> column there at page 25, all that follows does not change (because each
>>>>>>> page is saved separately). It would be really good if there was a
>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>> that allowed for this flexibility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> maria
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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