Animations to teach signwriting

Jonathan Duncan duncanjonathan at YAHOO.CA
Wed Jan 8 12:19:54 UTC 2014


Hello,
     Along the same lines, when doing transtions from one handshape to 
another or one face to another, I think that it would be a good idea to 
save each of the intermediate frames in the Puddle and properly label 
them as to was sign they correspond and which frame. Also a word 
denoting that these are not regular Signwriting but rather "stills" of a 
sign. They could come in real handy latter to do another rendering, like 
avatars for example.  Animated GIF is a rendered format and information 
about the symbols in each of the frames is lost for future uses.

Jonathan

On 1/7/2014 10:23 PM, André L wrote:
> Hello,
> I agree with a reserve.
> We may want the white surfaces of the hands and the face to remain 
> white if we display the animation on a coloured background.  Also, in 
> my first  attempts I used Microsoft paint, which does not support 
> transparent background. Considering that dictionnaries have between 
> 1000 and 5000 words, and there are several contributors, we need to 
> ensure ease of creation to make this project grow.  Standards will be 
> important to avoid redoing the work when someone finds a better way to 
> proceed.
>
> Also, I will contact soon the tunisian team who worked on an avatar 
> that translates SignWriting in a 3D animation.   I would start with  
> Yosra Bouzid and Mohamed Jemni.
> http://tiger.uvt.nl/pdf/papers/bouzid.pdf
> http://www.utic.rnu.tn/francais/websign.html
>
> Conceptually, our doing gif animation is a subset of what the avatar 
> does in an automated manner.  The avatar may be able to write the gif 
> animations in an automated manner on a large scale.  I such scenario 
> would happen, our best input may become to increase the dictionnaries 
> size to "feed" the avatar or to help it with directional words 
> (example: I give you, you give me).
> Concertation will be important before going any further.
> André Lemyre
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:39:37 -0800
> From: freddyfingaz83 at YAHOO.COM
> Subject: Re: Animations to teach signwriting
> To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
>
> I also agreed rules needs to be applied before processing the animated 
> dictionary. Such as size, resolute, aligned positioning, etc... I 
> would like offer to add other rule. All GIFS should have transparent 
> backgrounds. In a case, we will not need to reformat entire dictionary 
> in future use.
>
> Dale Archuleta
>
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>
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> *From: * André L <andre-andre at HOTMAIL.CA>;
> *To: * <SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU>;
> *Subject: * Re: Animations to teach signwriting
> *Sent: * Tue, Jan 7, 2014 1:57:39 AM
>
> Hello Jonathan and Valerie,
>
> I would prefer to have the animations with the regular dictionaries , 
> just like the optional illustration or video but distinct.
> In a distant future, the translate feature could concatenate the 
> animations in long stories.
>
> I will spend some time preparing samples of animations to see how 
> symbols could be used (good and bad examples).  I will provide several 
> alternatives for people to compare.  I will make a document to open a 
> discussion establish some standards (not my personal preferences).  We 
> do not want an animation of several words being misaligned, shrinking 
> and growing with blinking  fuzzy heads with several file formats and 
> resolution.
>
> We will need the opinion of Deaf people, programmers, teachers, 
>  SignWriters, children and teenagers for an acceptance test.  Speed 
> will be an issue, I expect Deaf people and fluent signwriters to 
> prefer fast videos (i.e. at a signing speed) while beginners will be 
> lost.
>
> André Lemyre
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 17:34:07 -0800
> From: signwriting at MAC.COM
> Subject: Re: Animations to teach signwriting
> To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
>
> SignWriting List
> January 6, 2014
>
> Thank you, Jonathan!
>
> Val ;-)
>
> ——
>
>
> On Jan 6, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Jonathan Duncan <duncanjonathan at yahoo.ca> 
> wrote:
>
>     Hi Val,
>         With a few small modifications SignWriter Studio should be
>     able to store and display animated GIFs. Sounds like an exciting
>     project!! :-)
>         I would be glad to update SignWriter Studio so that it have
>     the animations.
>     Jonathan
>
>     On 1/6/2014 4:01 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
>
>         SignWriting List
>         January 6, 2014
>
>         Hello André!
>         Thank you for this message and for the attached PowerPoint -
>         It is good to know that PowerPoint can accept animated GIFs.
>         It looks great!
>
>         I agree that animated SignWriting is valuable as an
>         educational tool…I think others agree too -
>
>         Would you, or anyone else, be interested in working on a new
>         project…an Animated SignWriting Dictionary on the web?
>
>         Take a look at this web page:
>
>         http://www.movementwriting.org/animation/sgn-US/
>
>         It is a simple page that shows the sign written in
>         SignWriting, and to the right of the sign, is the animated
>         version of it…
>
>         We could have an entire site devoted to this Animated
>         SignWriting Dictionary and Animated SignWriting Literature idea…
>
>         It could be a relaxed project for fun with no deadlines or any
>         pressure at all (I do not like deadlines or pressure ;-)
>
>         Just whenever the whim hits, do a few animations, and save
>         them in a file. Then we can post them in a new site...
>
>         The project could be done for any sign language, and
>         essentially be like a SignPuddle Online but for animated signs -
>
>         And that brings up the next question….Steve and Jonathan…could
>         SignPuddle and SignWriter Studio store animated GIFs?
>
>         Val ;-)
>
>         -------
>
>
>         On Jan 6, 2014, at 9:50 AM, André L <andre-andre at hotmail.ca>
>         wrote:
>
>             Hello,
>             Animations might be an intuitive way to teach signwriting
>             to deaf children.
>             It uses their knowledge of sign language.
>             The movements make the writing more intuitive, closer to
>             their experience.
>             There are less symbols to read at once.
>             It is easy to display on a screen, a computer or on paper.
>             A teacher can write on a slide with the mouse during the
>             class.
>             It is possible to create a power point show (does not
>             require power point to be displayed).
>
>             Here is an example of one animated word.  It could be a
>             sentence, a small movie...
>
>
>             André Lemyre
>
>
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