Glottal stops/notation

[Beverly Flanigan]

Syllabic /n, r, and l/ should certainly have some kind of mark underneath,
but I don't know how that's done on e-mail--Terry?  But the /?/ sans dot
doesn't signify the above; it's the sound a child makes in "uh oh" and many
British use in "bottle," "wha'" etc.  Terry's first example was glottalized
"satin," not "sadden."  Most Americans, as far as I know, do not glottalize
"bottle" but do so with 'cotton,' 'button,' 'kitten,' 'rotten,' 'Scranton,'
and 'Clinton' (foreign speakers usually do not glottalize 'Clinton,' but
pronounce a clear [t] instead, as I'm sure you've noticed).  To answer
Terry's question, the exception, as someone noted a couple weeks ago, might
be New Yorkers--anyone else?


At 06:29 PM 6/13/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Shouldn't those final consonants have a period underneath--or whatever is
>the e-mail way of distinguishing them as syllables--or is that another
>school of phonetics.  Anyhow, to answer your question, in the Southeast I
>have only heard bod?l, sad?n, and whatever the third example was.  I have
>heard bot?l and sat?n from Northerners at parties and social gatherings.  I
>have never heard bo?l or sa?n from any speakers of any ethnic group, race,
>or social class although I have seen the allegedly phonetic spelling in
>novels purporting to reflect certain dialects.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: TERRY IRONS <t.irons at MOREHEAD-ST.EDU>
>To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>Sent: Sunday, June 13, 1999 2:47 PM
>Subject: Glottal stops/notation
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>> On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Pafra & Scott Catledge wrote:
>>
>> > Isn't the ? a pharyngeal phricative? or is it a glottal stoppal?  It's
>been
>> > too long since I was a a member of IPA.
>>
>>
>> ? without the . is a glottal stop, in IPA.
>>
>> In English this glottal stop is an allphone of /t/, variably, in in
>> post-vocalic, non-word final postions, e.g., [s ae ? n] , [k a ? n],
>> [b a ? l].
>>
>> Students in my intro class thus summer had some problems with this
>> variation.
>>
>> Does any one have any insight on its distribution as a regional/social
>> variant of /t/?
>>
>>
>> Virtually, Terry
>>
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