"No soap!"
Gerald Cohen
gcohen at UMR.EDU
Wed Nov 24 23:53:39 UTC 1999
Peter McGraw (Nov.24) inquires:
>A friend remarked to me yesterday on the expression "no soap" (meaning
>"nothing doing") and asked if I had any idea where it came from
>(etymologically, not geographically speaking). I didn't. Does anybody out
>there? I'm not aware that it's regional.
**** I have treated this expression in:
Gerald Leonard Cohen: _Studies in Slang_, part 2 (= _Forum Anglicum_, vol.
16), Frankfurt am Main: Peter Lang, 1989. pp.150-151; article title: ' _No
Soap!_ "Nothing Doing, No Go"'
--------The article ponts out that 'soap' was a criminal slang term for
'money.' Cf. an 1865 attestation from _Leaves From The Diary of a
Celerated Burglar and Pickpocket_ 1865 : 'How They "Reefed" Up His
"Leather" And Secured His "Soap".'
So the original context of 'No soap!' was apparently one in which a
criminal was asked for a loan (or was about to be asked by a perennial
borrower.). The reply 'No soap' simply meant 'No money.'
Cf. also slang 'No dice!' (= Nothing doing!)--clearly with an original
reference to refusing dice to a gambler. And cf. an 1865 example of 'No
bottle' with the same meaning ('Nothing doing; no go), clearly from an
original context of a bartender refusing a bottle of wine to a customer:
_(Leaves...._, 1865): 'she [a thieving hen] flew over onto the counter
and "grannied" [looked at] the "slide" [ apparently: money box], but that
was no "bottle," it was "screwed" [locked]; so there was nothing for it
but dry goods.'
So, 'no soap,' 'no dice,' 'no bottle'--all originally expressing
refusal to someone unreliable.
----Gerald Cohen
gcohen at umr.edu
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