quest for info/suggestions. re: dialects

[Pafra & Scott Catledge]

Send them on an errand to Versailles, KY--they'll never be heard from again.
----- Original Message -----
From: Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU>
To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: quest for info/suggestions. re: dialects


> You're right; it's the same here at Ohio University, as far as I know.
But
> the students take our Ling. courses as undergrads and then take no more
> linguistics at the grad level.  The most unnerving part of having them in
> classes is that they "just want the facts" and seem to resent being asked
> to THINK about language, language issues, "what if" kinds of questions,
> etc.  Phonology esp. bugs them; they only want basic phonetics, where
messy
> phenomena like elision, assimilation, and the like don't disrupt their
> neat, clean paradigms.  Thus they sneer at locals who pronounce the next
> town [lENGk at st@r] instead of [laenkaest at r].  Now you've got me on a roll,
> and a bit off topic.  But this rigid prescriptivist mind-set is hard to
> change!
>
>
> At 10:45 AM 10/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >I do not know where you are from but the University of Florida Department
of
> >Speech Pathology and Audiology had a flat policy of not recommending BA's
> >for positions in speech pathology or audiology.  The Master's was
considered
> >the entry-level degree in those fields and a CCC was required for any but
> >temporary or probationary positions.   I reckon the BA's and Post Bac's
> >could get a job in another field that did not require a recommendation
from
> >the University.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU>
> >To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 10:07 AM
> >Subject: Re: quest for info/suggestions. re: dialects
> >
> >
> >> I hope it still disapproves of such participation, but I fear many
speech
> >> path people get jobs in the public schools and clinics and work,
overtly
> >or
> >> covertly, to "reduce" dialects.  The Hearing and Speech undergrads in
our
> >> school all want such jobs because they pay well; and when they take the
> >one
> >> or two Linguistics courses required of them they exhibit serious biases
> >> against "local" or "ethnic" dialects and declare it their mission to
> >> eradicate them (always for the good of the speakers, of course)!
Beware,
> >> Beth!
> >>
> >>
> >> At 09:31 AM 10/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >A few decades ago when I was workingb on my master's in
Speech/Language
> >> >Pathology and Audiology, the ASLHA was quite disapproving of
> >Speech/Language
> >> >Pathologist participation in any "dialect-reduction" programs.  This
> >> >position may have been a PC stand that went by the wayside because it
was
> >> >profitable (remember when the AMA considered "specialists" in
> >bariatrics--
> >> >sp?-- [weight reduction] to be quacks).
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: Bradley, Beth M <Beth.M.Bradley at UWSP.EDU>
> >> >To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >> >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:34 AM
> >> >Subject: quest for info/suggestions. re: dialects
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> I am an Undergrad in Communication Disorders, with plans to get my
> >masters
> >> >> in Speech Language Pathology.  I have always been very interested in
> >> >> dialects, and I'm curious if there is a career path(?) that leans
> >towards
> >> >> that area.
> >> >> I'd appreciate any information anyone has, either e-mailed to me
> >directly
> >> >at
> >> >> bbrad075 at uwsp.edu, or posted on the listserve.
> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >> -Beth Bradley
> >> >
> >