quest for info/suggestions. re: dialects

Beverly Flanigan flanigan at OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU
Sat Oct 2 17:37:42 UTC 1999


Sorry--I don't get the joke.  Why Versailles as opposed to somewhere else?

At 09:39 AM 10/2/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Send them on an errand to Versailles, KY--they'll never be heard from again.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU>
>To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:45 PM
>Subject: Re: quest for info/suggestions. re: dialects
>
>
>> You're right; it's the same here at Ohio University, as far as I know.
>But
>> the students take our Ling. courses as undergrads and then take no more
>> linguistics at the grad level.  The most unnerving part of having them in
>> classes is that they "just want the facts" and seem to resent being asked
>> to THINK about language, language issues, "what if" kinds of questions,
>> etc.  Phonology esp. bugs them; they only want basic phonetics, where
>messy
>> phenomena like elision, assimilation, and the like don't disrupt their
>> neat, clean paradigms.  Thus they sneer at locals who pronounce the next
>> town [lENGk at st@r] instead of [laenkaest at r].  Now you've got me on a roll,
>> and a bit off topic.  But this rigid prescriptivist mind-set is hard to
>> change!
>>
>>
>> At 10:45 AM 10/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
>> >I do not know where you are from but the University of Florida Department
>of
>> >Speech Pathology and Audiology had a flat policy of not recommending BA's
>> >for positions in speech pathology or audiology.  The Master's was
>considered
>> >the entry-level degree in those fields and a CCC was required for any but
>> >temporary or probationary positions.   I reckon the BA's and Post Bac's
>> >could get a job in another field that did not require a recommendation
>from
>> >the University.
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU>
>> >To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>> >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 10:07 AM
>> >Subject: Re: quest for info/suggestions. re: dialects
>> >
>> >
>> >> I hope it still disapproves of such participation, but I fear many
>speech
>> >> path people get jobs in the public schools and clinics and work,
>overtly
>> >or
>> >> covertly, to "reduce" dialects.  The Hearing and Speech undergrads in
>our
>> >> school all want such jobs because they pay well; and when they take the
>> >one
>> >> or two Linguistics courses required of them they exhibit serious biases
>> >> against "local" or "ethnic" dialects and declare it their mission to
>> >> eradicate them (always for the good of the speakers, of course)!
>Beware,
>> >> Beth!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At 09:31 AM 10/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> >A few decades ago when I was workingb on my master's in
>Speech/Language
>> >> >Pathology and Audiology, the ASLHA was quite disapproving of
>> >Speech/Language
>> >> >Pathologist participation in any "dialect-reduction" programs.  This
>> >> >position may have been a PC stand that went by the wayside because it
>was
>> >> >profitable (remember when the AMA considered "specialists" in
>> >bariatrics--
>> >> >sp?-- [weight reduction] to be quacks).
>> >> >----- Original Message -----
>> >> >From: Bradley, Beth M <Beth.M.Bradley at UWSP.EDU>
>> >> >To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>> >> >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:34 AM
>> >> >Subject: quest for info/suggestions. re: dialects
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> I am an Undergrad in Communication Disorders, with plans to get my
>> >masters
>> >> >> in Speech Language Pathology.  I have always been very interested in
>> >> >> dialects, and I'm curious if there is a career path(?) that leans
>> >towards
>> >> >> that area.
>> >> >> I'd appreciate any information anyone has, either e-mailed to me
>> >directly
>> >> >at
>> >> >> bbrad075 at uwsp.edu, or posted on the listserve.
>> >> >> Thanks.
>> >> >> -Beth Bradley
>> >> >
>> >
>



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