quest for info/suggestions. re: dialects

[Pafra & Scott Catledge]

In Kentucky the correct pronunciation is verr-sales--no one would recognize
the French unless you found someone who had studied French.  I met a
disgusted tourist in England who had gone looking for "sire-wren-chester"
(the home of his ancestors).  When I asked a Englishman next to us where
"sister" was, he quickly gave directions.  The American's comment was "These
damned English can't even speak their own language."
----- Original Message -----
From: Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU>
To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: quest for info/suggestions. re: dialects


> Sorry--I don't get the joke.  Why Versailles as opposed to somewhere else?
>
> At 09:39 AM 10/2/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >Send them on an errand to Versailles, KY--they'll never be heard from
again.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU>
> >To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:45 PM
> >Subject: Re: quest for info/suggestions. re: dialects
> >
> >
> >> You're right; it's the same here at Ohio University, as far as I know.
> >But
> >> the students take our Ling. courses as undergrads and then take no more
> >> linguistics at the grad level.  The most unnerving part of having them
in
> >> classes is that they "just want the facts" and seem to resent being
asked
> >> to THINK about language, language issues, "what if" kinds of questions,
> >> etc.  Phonology esp. bugs them; they only want basic phonetics, where
> >messy
> >> phenomena like elision, assimilation, and the like don't disrupt their
> >> neat, clean paradigms.  Thus they sneer at locals who pronounce the
next
> >> town [lENGk at st@r] instead of [laenkaest at r].  Now you've got me on a
roll,
> >> and a bit off topic.  But this rigid prescriptivist mind-set is hard to
> >> change!
> >>
> >>
> >> At 10:45 AM 10/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >I do not know where you are from but the University of Florida
Department
> >of
> >> >Speech Pathology and Audiology had a flat policy of not recommending
BA's
> >> >for positions in speech pathology or audiology.  The Master's was
> >considered
> >> >the entry-level degree in those fields and a CCC was required for any
but
> >> >temporary or probationary positions.   I reckon the BA's and Post
Bac's
> >> >could get a job in another field that did not require a recommendation
> >from
> >> >the University.
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU>
> >> >To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >> >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 10:07 AM
> >> >Subject: Re: quest for info/suggestions. re: dialects
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> I hope it still disapproves of such participation, but I fear many
> >speech
> >> >> path people get jobs in the public schools and clinics and work,
> >overtly
> >> >or
> >> >> covertly, to "reduce" dialects.  The Hearing and Speech undergrads
in
> >our
> >> >> school all want such jobs because they pay well; and when they take
the
> >> >one
> >> >> or two Linguistics courses required of them they exhibit serious
biases
> >> >> against "local" or "ethnic" dialects and declare it their mission to
> >> >> eradicate them (always for the good of the speakers, of course)!
> >Beware,
> >> >> Beth!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> At 09:31 AM 10/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >> >A few decades ago when I was workingb on my master's in
> >Speech/Language
> >> >> >Pathology and Audiology, the ASLHA was quite disapproving of
> >> >Speech/Language
> >> >> >Pathologist participation in any "dialect-reduction" programs.
This
> >> >> >position may have been a PC stand that went by the wayside because
it
> >was
> >> >> >profitable (remember when the AMA considered "specialists" in
> >> >bariatrics--
> >> >> >sp?-- [weight reduction] to be quacks).
> >> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >From: Bradley, Beth M <Beth.M.Bradley at UWSP.EDU>
> >> >> >To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >> >> >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:34 AM
> >> >> >Subject: quest for info/suggestions. re: dialects
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I am an Undergrad in Communication Disorders, with plans to get
my
> >> >masters
> >> >> >> in Speech Language Pathology.  I have always been very interested
in
> >> >> >> dialects, and I'm curious if there is a career path(?) that leans
> >> >towards
> >> >> >> that area.
> >> >> >> I'd appreciate any information anyone has, either e-mailed to me
> >> >directly
> >> >> >at
> >> >> >> bbrad075 at uwsp.edu, or posted on the listserve.
> >> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >> >> -Beth Bradley
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >