Is ICJ at The Hague in the Netherlands?

Peter A. McGraw pmcgraw at LINFIELD.EDU
Fri Jun 2 16:26:25 UTC 2000

In any case, I don't think this trial IS taking place in The Hague, and the
case isn't being tried by the ICJ.  NPR's reports of the trial have been
broadcast from Camp Zeist, a military base in the eastern part of the
country, where the Scottish court is trying the case.  If the Netherlands
ceded a parcel of land to Scotland for this purpose, it wasn't in The Hague.

Peter McGraw

--On Fri, Jun 2, 2000 12:10 PM +0000 RonButters at AOL.COM wrote:

> As Bill Clinton would have rightly said, this is just a matter of what
> your definition of "in" is.
> There MAY be some arcane international-law meaning of "in" with respect to
> ICJ and this particular trial, but The Hague is most definitely "in" The
> Netherlands (according to AHD3, it is in fact the "de facto capital"), and
> this particular trial is taking place "in" a courtroom that is located
> "in" The Hague.
> Tom Paikeday is right--any other interpretration of "in" here contradicts
> common sense.
> In a message dated 6/2/2000 5:15:46 AM, aaron at LING.ED.AC.UK writes:
> << on 2/6/00 7:47 AM, Bapopik at AOL.COM wrote:
>> Maybe Fred Shapiro can answer this.
>> One of the questions on WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE? a few hours ago
>> was "In what country is the Lockerbie trial taking place?"  The "correct"
>> answer was The Netherlands.  The trial is taking place at the
>> International Court of Justice, at The Hague.
>> I visited there.  I was told that the ICJ is, technically, not in any
>> country.  The land belongs to the United Nations.  The ICJ is NOT in The
>> Netherlands.  True?
>> Did Regis blow another one?
> From what I understand, Holland has ceded a tiny corner of its country to
> Scotland (which used to be claimed by the US, I think).  That would be the
> only way a Scottish court could, since you don't get English law in
> Scotland nor Scots law in England or Wales.  Since Scots law prevails on
> that tiny corner, and since Scottish police and British military are the
> only law enforcement, *technically* the court is in Scotland.  Kind of
> like embassies.
> --Aaron >>

                               Peter A. McGraw
                   Linfield College   *   McMinnville, OR
                            pmcgraw at

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