patina & outsource

[Thomas Paikeday]

For some reason, the 1996 Oxford Advanced Learner's (who marches to a
different drummer and my private anthem) has (puh.TEEN.uh) [my
transcription] labelled "US." Ms. Pittman should find this interesting.

The Gage pronunciation is probably the carryover from the 1965
Thorndike-Barnhart H.S. Dictionary on which it is based. Sorry about the
axe.

Another nonlinguist asks, "Who first used 'outsource'?" An idle question
to me, like who first used OK (Sorry Allen, if you are listening), who
invented the wheel, sliced bread, etc. But an answer from anyone with
access to good databases would be appreciated.

Thanks.


Victoria Neufeldt wrote:

> Webster's New World, Random House, and American Heritage all show
> 'PATina' first and 'paTEEna' second (fairly recent editions).
> Merriam-Webster has it the other way around; the two variants were
> transposed for the Ninth Collegiate edition, 1983, presumably because
> of evidence for a change in prevailing pronunciation.  But none of the
> dictionaries mark their second pronunciation shown as a limited or
> disputed one, so the implication is that both are common in the U.S.,
> and that usage may be pretty evenly split (one or the other must be
> placed first, of course, even if the two are equally common).   The
> Gage Canadian Dict (1983) and the Concise Oxford Dict (1990) show only
> the 'PATina' pronunciation.VictoriaMerriam-Webster, Inc. P.O. Box 281
> Springfield, MA 01102
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>
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: American Dialect Society
>      [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]On Behalf Of Victoria Pittman
>
>      Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 1:04 PM
>      To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>      Subject: patina
>
>      Hope someone can clear this up for me.  I am an artist
>      working with metals and often finish the work with a
>      Patina.  I have always heard it pronounced with the accent
>      on the second syllable..and pronounced pa-TEEN-ah.  The
>      dictionary puts the accent on the first ...PAT-in-ah. Is
>      this an American/British difference or what? Thanks and
>      sorry if this is a very basic question...I'm an artist not a
>      linguist... Victoria
>
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