Sloppy Joe's in NJ = ?? (fwd)

[Rudolph C Troike]

I did a little local inquiry among expatriate NJ folks here in Arizona,
and got the following:

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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 15:01:14 -0700
From: Chris Kiesel <ckiesel at u.arizona.edu>
To: Rudolph C Troike <rtroike at U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sloppy Joe's in NJ = ??

Rudy,

A Sloppy Joe as served in my NE Jersey high school cafeteria was crumbled
hamburger or mystery meat in a barbecue-like sauce.  Never heard of the
deli-meat variety.  Sounds good, but might be named differently.  Sloppy
Rueben?

Chris

At 12:50 PM 10/20/2001 -0700, you wrote:

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>Date:    Fri, 19 Oct 2001 06:27:52 -0700
>From:    Ed Keer <edkeer at YAHOO.COM>
>Subject: Sloppy Joe's
>
>  The recent post on Sloppy Joe's reminded me of
>something that's been bothering me. I grew up in
>southeastern Pennsyvania and ate Sloppy Joe's all my
>life.  My mother's recipe is something like the recipe
>posted, without the gumbo soup. Anyway, when I moved
>to central New Jersey I found that a Sloppy Joe was
>what I would call a "special" sandwich--deli meat
>(corned beef, turkey, roast beef) with russian
>dressing and cole slaw. This homophony caused great
>dissapointment at a local diner when I ordered a
>Sloppy Joe and got a special.
>
>Now I had already reluctantly let "sub" into my
>vocabulary, replacing my beloved "hoagie".  I wasn't
>about to change Sloppy Joe.  Does anyone have any idea
>if the New Jersey use of Sloppy Joe is widespread?
>Anyone else as confused as I am?
>
>Ed
>
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