def. german urft?

[Douglas G. Wilson]

>... Douglas Wilson's post seems to be describing the location of the Erft
>River, which parallels the Rur but is a tributary of the Rhine.

Not according to my sources. Here I have the Rand McNally atlas (1993),
listing the Erft River at 51.11N, 6.44E, the distinct Urft River at 50.35N,
6.30E. [The Rur is not the Ruhr.]

Here are some Web sites:

http://www.eifeltour.de/Texte/Geographie/Fluesse/Urft.htm

http://www.general-anzeiger-bonn.de/freizeit/wandertips/mariawald.html

http://www.eifelfuehrer.de/U/Urft.html

http://www.eifel-touristik.de/wassererlebnis/wassererlebnis/gewaesser/urft.htm

Here is "Urftquelle":

http://www.eusebius.de/niederkastenholz/ettighoffer/ett04.htm

And regarding the Dobermans:

http://home.t-online.de/home/d-meyerkirchheim/

etc.

"Urft" might be from Latin since the Eifel region was once Romanized ... or
Celtic ... or ....

-- Doug Wilson