Normal people vs. us; ugliness in Illinois

[Laurence Horn]

At 9:39 AM -0400 9/15/02, Douglas G. Wilson wrote:
>>PS: Have we discussed the difficult-to-say (and certainly more
>>recent) "Urbana-Champaign" as opposed to the easily pronounced
>>"Champaign-Urbana")?  Both stress patterns (the more irregular xXxxX
>>versus the lovely xXxXx) and weight (two syllables before three
>>rather than three before two) militate against the ugly
>>"Urbana-Champaign."
>
>Both of these combinations were conventional when I lived there (early
>1970's). But my favorite was the infrequently encountered but relatively
>beautiful "Chambanana" (like "sham banana").
>
I also recall simple "Shambana", which I figured alternated with "Ur-pain".

larry