/zh/ replacing /dzh/?

Dennis R. Preston preston at PILOT.MSU.EDU
Wed Sep 25 23:41:24 UTC 2002


AHA! And apparently cold sober you can say "might could" (at least if
its broken up with a "conceivably").

dInIs

>Nope. But occasionally, under duress and the influence of a glass of
>wine, I might conceivably could say /gradzh/ for /grazh/.
>
>Dennis R. Preston said:
>>>Alice, say it isn't so. You can say /grazh/ for /gradzh/!
>>
>>dInIs
>>
>>>Nope. If I fully elide the first syllable, it would be /grazh/.
>>>
>>>Dennis R. Preston said:
>>>>First syllable? There are two syllables in 'garage'? Aint it /gradzh/
>>>>(adopting the /dzh/ spelling of the affricate used so far in this
>>>>discussion)?
>>>>
>>>>dInIs
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Alice Faber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>#Well, of course, the right way to say Elijah has neither /zh/ nor
>>>>#/dzh/...but I don't think I've ever heard a non-affricated English
>>>>#pronunciation. Garage with /dzh/ strikes me as a Britishism
>>>>#(Britishcism?).
>>>>
>>>>The Brits go the whole hog on anglicizing it: they stress the first
>>>>syllable, too:
>>>>
>>>>         ' g ae r I dZ
>>>>
>>>>rhyming with "carriage".
>>>>
>>>>-- Mark A. Mandel
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Dennis R. Preston
>>>>Professor of Linguistics
>>>>Department of Linguistics and Languages
>>>>740 Wells Hall A
>>>>Michigan State University
>>>>East Lansing, MI 48824-1027 USA
>>>>Office - (517) 353-0740
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>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>==============================================================================
>>>Alice Faber
>>>faber at haskins.yale.edu
>>>Haskins Laboratories                                  tel: (203)
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>>
>>--
>>Dennis R. Preston
>>Professor of Linguistics
>>Department of Linguistics and Languages
>>740 Wells Hall A
>>Michigan State University
>>East Lansing, MI 48824-1027 USA
>>Office - (517) 353-0740
>>Fax - (517) 432-2736
>
>
>--
>==============================================================================
>Alice Faber                                             faber at haskins.yale.edu
>Haskins Laboratories                                  tel: (203) 865-6163 x258
>New Haven, CT 06511 USA                                     fax (203) 865-8963

--
Dennis R. Preston
Professor of Linguistics
Department of Linguistics and Languages
740 Wells Hall A
Michigan State University
East Lansing, MI 48824-1027 USA
Office - (517) 353-0740
Fax - (517) 432-2736



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