/zh/ replacing /dzh/?

[Alice Faber]

I picked up the "might could" in Texas. I don't get much occasion to use it
up north, but my intuitions on when and how to use it haven't been shot
completely to hell. Yet.

Dennis R. Preston wrote:
>AHA! And apparently cold sober you can say "might could" (at least if
>its broken up with a "conceivably").
>
>dInIs
>
>>Nope. But occasionally, under duress and the influence of a glass of
>>wine, I might conceivably could say /gradzh/ for /grazh/.
>>
>>Dennis R. Preston said:
>>>>Alice, say it isn't so. You can say /grazh/ for /gradzh/!
>>>
>>>dInIs
>>>
>>>>Nope. If I fully elide the first syllable, it would be /grazh/.
>>>>
>>>>Dennis R. Preston said:
>>>>>First syllable? There are two syllables in 'garage'? Aint it /gradzh/
>>>>>(adopting the /dzh/ spelling of the affricate used so far in this
>>>>>discussion)?
>>>>>
>>>>>dInIs
>>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Alice Faber wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>#Well, of course, the right way to say Elijah has neither /zh/ nor
>>>>>#/dzh/...but I don't think I've ever heard a non-affricated English
>>>>>#pronunciation. Garage with /dzh/ strikes me as a Britishism
>>>>>#(Britishcism?).
>>>>>
>>>>>The Brits go the whole hog on anglicizing it: they stress the first
>>>>>syllable, too:
>>>>>
>>>>>         ' g ae r I dZ
>>>>>
>>>>>rhyming with "carriage".
>>>>>
>>>>>-- Mark A. Mandel
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Dennis R. Preston
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>>>Dennis R. Preston
>>>Professor of Linguistics
>>>Department of Linguistics and Languages
>>>740 Wells Hall A
>>>Michigan State University
>>>East Lansing, MI 48824-1027 USA
>>>Office - (517) 353-0740
>>>Fax - (517) 432-2736
>>
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>>Alice
>>Faber                                             faber at haskins.yale.edu
>>Haskins Laboratories                                  tel: (203) 865-6163
>>x258
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>
>--
>Dennis R. Preston
>Professor of Linguistics
>Department of Linguistics and Languages
>740 Wells Hall A
>Michigan State University
>East Lansing, MI 48824-1027 USA
>Office - (517) 353-0740
>Fax - (517) 432-2736

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Alice Faber                                             faber at haskins.yale.edu
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