Glam Burger; Irish Apple

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Sat Jan 18 01:40:51 UTC 2003


GLAM BURGER

      Today's NEW YORK POST, 17 January 2003, pg. 7,  col. 2,:

_GLAM BURGER_
_For $50,_
_it _better__
_be good_
DB Bistro
Moderne burger
***
    The full-color photo illustration must be seen to be believed.
    Wait a while and see if "glam burger" catches on as slang for an
expensive hamburger.

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IRISH APPLE

In a message dated 1/17/2003 1:12:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
george.thompson at NYU.EDU writes:


> So a hypothesis has been made, and we sit back and await future
> developments.
>
> GAT
>
> George A. Thompson
> Author of A Documentary History of "The African
> Theatre", Northwestern Univ. Pr.
>
    You're going to have to wait a long time, almost as long as for the
African sources for "OK."  Or, if you're writing THE STORY OF ENGLISH, don't
even bother to wait at all.
    As I've said, not only do we NOT HAVE ONE SINGLE PIECE OF SUPPORTING
EVIDENCE in any of our HUGE DATABANKS OF MILLIONS OF HISTORICAL WRITINGS, we
have COMPLETELY CONTRADICTORY EVIDENCE.
   "Apple" meant "apple."  It didn't come from an Irish speaker in New York
City, but from an African-American in New Orleans.  Horses like apples.
Horses don't eat zucchini and they don't eat much pumpkin.  The apple was and
still is the king of the fruits.
   As I've said before, but I guess George missed it, various apple-growing
places, such as Washington, British Columbia, Colorado, and Missouri, all
advertised as "Land of the Big Red Apples" since at least the 1890s.  No
"mouth of the river" from Irish in that.  "Apples"--Big Apples.
   But if you want to wait, go ahead and wait.  Get Bill Gates to digitize
every single Irish work ever published.  You won't find anything of
relevance, and it won't be what the African-American had meant, and it won't
be what John J. Fitz Gerald had meant, and it won't be what a living witness
such as Shirley Povich has told me.
   And if you don't find anything at all, your theory is still true, but it's
just that no one had bothered to write it down.



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