Fwd: message from Barry Popik

Fri May 16 00:22:14 UTC 2003

Barry Popik had trouble sending the message below to ads-l--at least
its Ivy League portion--and asked a few of us to try sending it for
him. So here goes.

Gerald Cohen

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>Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:55:45 -0400
>From: Bapopik at aol.com
>To: ADS-L at listserv.uga.edu
>Cc: gcohen at umr.edu, jester at panix.com, fred.shapiro at yale.edu
>Subject: Fat Cake (1929); Ivy Leage (7 February 1935)
>
>FAT CAKE
>
>   DARE has 1948 and 1949 for "fatcake."  It's also called
>"friedcake" and is "chiefly PaGer area."  This was the earliest
>citation, surrounded by false hits such as "EAT CAKE."
>
>
>When Mother Lets Us Cook; The Washington Post (1877-1954),
>Washington, D.C.; May 12, 1929; pg. JP2, 1 pgs:
>      _FAT CAKES._
>1 cup brown sugar
>1/2 cup fat
>1 egg well beaten
>1/2 cup sour milk
>1 1/2 cups flour
>1/2 teaspoon soda
>1 teaspoon baking powder
>1/2 cup raisins
>1/2 teaspoon each of the following: ground spices, cinnamon,
>allspice, cloves and nutmeg.
>   Mix as for cake and drop from teaspoon on well oiled pan.
>AGNES BALDWIN.
>Berwyn, Md.
>
>
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>IVY LEAGUE
>
>(NOTE:  I've been trying to send this message ten times.  It never
>arrives on ADS-L.  Maybe some others can give it a try.)
>
>    The CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR beat it by a day.  The first four
>appear to be false "hits."
>
>
>(PROQUEST HISTORICAL NEWSPAPERS)
>Eastern College Ivy' League Looms as Reality Next Season; The
>Washington Post (1877-1954), Washington, D.C.; Feb 20, 1935; pg. 19,
>1 pgs
>
>Brown Seems To Have Been Taken Into 'Ivy League'; Christian Science
>Monitor (1908-Current file), Boston, Mass.; Feb 7, 1935; pg. 6, 1
>pgs
>
>BACON TAKES PLACE AS COMMITTEE HEAD OF THE NAVY LEAGUE; The
>Washington Post (1877-1954), Washington, D.C.; Sep 1, 1915; pg. 2, 1
>pgs
>
>IN COLD STORAGE LAWS SOUGHT; Officer of United Housewives' League
>Refers Particularly to Eggs in Speech; Christian Science Monitor
>(1908-Current file), Boston, Mass.; Dec 16, 1913; pg. 1, 1 pgs
>
>Display Ad 63 -- No Title; The Washington Post (1877-1954),
>Washington, D.C.; Nov 8, 1908; pg. SM3, 1 pgs
>
>SOCIAL AND; Thanksgiving Week Promises but Little Entertainment. TWO
>WEDDINGS OF INTEREST Family Parties to Be the Rule for Those Who
>Remain in Town -- Mrs. Hay's Determination Not to Receive Makes Mrs.
>Shaw the Ranking; The Washington Post, Washington, D.C.; Nov 22,
>1903; pg. E8, 2 pgs
>
>
>>Date:         Sat, 22 Sep 2001 17:44:28 -0400
>>Reply-To:     American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>>Sender:       American Dialect Society Mailing List <ADS-L at uga.cc.uga.edu>
>>Comments:     cc: jester at panix.com
>>From:         Fred Shapiro <fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU>
>>Subject:      Origin of Term "Ivy League"
>>Comments: To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>
>>A few years ago Barry Popik, with his usual outstanding research, traced
>>the term "Ivy League" back to December 1935 (the OED has 1939).  Now a
>>new book about Ivy League football pushes it back even further:
>>
>>[1933 Stanley Woodward in _N.Y. Herald Tribune_ 14 Oct. in Mark F.
>>Bernstein _Football: The Ivy League Origins of an American Obsession_
>>(2001) xii  A proportion of our eastern ivy colleges are meeting little
>>fellows another Saturday before plunging into the strife and the turmoil.]
>>
>>1935 Alan Gould in _Providence Journal_ 8 Feb. in Mark F. Bernstein
>>_Football: The Ivy League Origins of an American Obsession_ (2001) 281
>>(heading) Brown seen as charter member of Ivy League.
>>
>>
>>Fred Shapiro

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IVY COLLEGE

    There doesn't seem to be any "Ivy College" before 1935, except for
false hits.

1.      HARVARD CAPTURES 7 FIRSTS AND WINS HEPTAGONAL MEET; Goes to
Fore in Last Three Events, Cornell Finishing Second, Columbia Third.;
By ARTHUR J. DALEY., Special to THE NEW YORK TIMES.; New York Times
(1857-Current file), New York, N.Y.; May 12, 1935; pg. S1, 2 pgs

2.      First Heptagonal Games Today To Test Skill of Eastern;
Athletes From Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn, Dartmouth, Cornell and
Columbia to Compete at Palmer Stadium -- Metropolitan College Meet
Listed at Ohio; By ARTHUR J. DALEY.; New York Times (1857-Current,
New York, N.Y.; May 11, 1935; pg. 11, 1 pgs

3.      Formation of New Fencing League Planned by Group of Six;
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Army, Navy and Columbia, Old Guard of the
Present Intercollegiate Association, Are Reported Organizing Body to
Control Their Dual; By ARTHUR J. DALEY.; New York Times
(1857-Current, New York, N.Y.; Apr 1, 1935; pg. 25, 1 pgs

4.      Classified Ad 47 -- No Title; New York Times (1857-Current
file), New York, N.Y.; Jan 29, 1929; pg. 29, 1 pgs

5.      Display Ad 4 -- No Title; The Washington Post (1877-1954),
Washington, D.C.; Sep 10, 1897; pg. 4, 1 pgs

6.      Display Ad 4 -- No Title; The Washington Post (1877-1954),
Washington, D.C.; Sep 28, 1896; pg. 4, 1 pgs