second thoughts on Nkinis

[Jonathan Lighter]

I'm sure that some of the photos in Life magazine published during World War II, esp. after 1943,  featured starlets in two-piece bathing suits. It would be well worth the while of any right-thinking male scholar to review the evidence.

              "Macbeth.  Is that Chili Williams I see before me?????"

JL


Wilson Gray <wilson.gray at RCN.COM> wrote:
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On Dec 24, 2004, at 1:57 PM, James A. Landau wrote:

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> In a message dated Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:29:55 +0100, Chris F Waigl
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>>> As for the referents, neither a skimpy two-piece swimsuit nor either
>>> of
> its
>>> parts would seem to have qualified as a novel invention, even in
>>> 1946.
>
> I am hardly an expert on women's clothing, but I do not believe that
> two-piece bathing suits, skimpy or otherwise, were at all common in
> 1946.

Why don't you believe that? The bikini was hardly the first two-piece
bathing suit for women. Didn't you ever look at the pictures in Esquire
magazine or those in the pulp girlie-mags of the day? I certainly did.
My father-in-law's favorite picture of my mother-in-law, taken after he
got out of the Army in 1945, shows her in a two-piece bathing suit. The
bikini merely contained noticeably less material than was usual up to
that time. That is, a *skimpy* two-piece bathing suit surely did
qualify as a novel invention in 1946 simply on the basis of its
skimpiness. The bikini was newsworthy enough at the time that it was
written up and pictured in NewsTime.

-Wilson Gray

>
>
>> («maillot de bain deux pièces»).
>
> It is interesting that in English the word "maillot" (originally
> French)
> means strictly a one-piece bathing suit that. leotard-style, covers
> the woman from
> crotch to breastline. Judging by the above line ("two-piece bathing
> maillot") in French the word can mean any type of woman's bathing suit.
>
>
>> BBG. DUCH. 1967, § 70. GALL. 1955, p. 112, 157. TEPPE (J.). Défense
>> de
>> klaxonner! Vie Lang. 1961, no 114, p. 485.
>
> To the best of my understanding of French, "Defense de klaxonner"
> means "it
> is forbidden to sound a Klaxon horn". I do not see what these words
> are doing
> here, unless "klaxonner" means "to wear a sexy garment". Also, since
> "k"
> appears in French only in foreign words, "klaxonner" is a blatant
> example of
> Franglais.
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Perhaps someday the word "Nkini" will enter the English language, in
> which
> case ADS-L will provide the coinage citation.
>
> Coments on other letters:
>
> an ADS-L member, who I will not cite by name, was I understand once
> suffering
> chemotherapy for non-Hodgkins's lymphoma. Said member wrote:
>
>> (who in fact coward 1/3 of the way out of his own 4th B cycle a
>> couple of years ago)
>
> Forsooth! Dr. non-Hodgkins will be ashamed of you!
>
>> and for a third person example (with another eggcorn lurking not too
>> subtly within):
>>
>> =========
>> And most important Josephus had other reasons for rewriting them as
>> doing so, since he coward out of a pack made with his comrades.
>
> Not necessarily an eggcorn, since Josephus before he changed sides was
> a
> member of a "pack" (cf WWII "wolf-pack") of Jewish fighters.
>
> - James A. Landau
>



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