Dirty Water Dog (1992--from Gersh Kuntzman!)

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Again: FWIW to the thousands of people writing a book on the "hot dog."

"Dirty Water Dog" is about to be added to my web page. (OT: Still not mentioned in the NY Post.) The first "dirty water dog" citation comes from--the New York Post's Gersh Kuntzman? Gersh coins a word?

We deal with first citations here. Unless someone comes up with an earlier one, Gersh gets credit. That dirty dog!

A post on Roadfood.com, 11-19-2003: "A 'dirty water dog'is an affectionate name for a push cart hot dog or a hot dog you would get off a lunch truck. I think it may be a New York/New Jersey thing."


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U.S. Convention Diary -- Enough to Make a Stone Sad
By Manuela Hoelterhoff. Wall Street Journal. (Europe). Brussels: Jul 16, 1992. pg. PAGE.6

Friday, July 10:

So where were they? Where were the women chained to the Brooklyn Bridge? Four years have passed since thousands of us last beat stories out of the dying donkey, vowing we'd never do it again, ever. But there I was in New York city at 10 a.m. trailing rivulets of sweat in the hellish heat, futilely checking bridge girders for the Women's Action Coalition and the posters they promised to bring highlighting "abortion, censorship, education, violence."

Only now were the delegates, whom we the press outnumber by at least five to one, arriving in New York, and there was time to kill. Why not call a fearless gourmet to advise hungry conventioneers? Someone like Gersh Kuntzman, who once staved my appetite for days reviewing a Chinese restaurant I used to like. ("In between the shell and the unnoticeable meat center is a peritoneal layer of slime which keeps the meat slidin' away.")

Gersh, I said, tell me: What do you recommend for folks in a hurry? The dirty water dogs sold from those carts with the cheery umbrellas? "Well," he said, "the dirty water dog is certainly a nutritious treat and readily available in all major Manhattan gridlock centers. But my vote goes to the knish. Eat a potatoe knish and it will last nearly the entire convention. Stays in your stomach for three days."


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From: Jay M. Poznanski (pozfam at ix.netcom.com)
Subject: Back to New York!!
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Date: 1995/10/26

After working in Jersey for the past 7 years, I finally got myself a transfer back to NYC. I couldn't have been happier. I live in NYC and the commute between states was killing me. Not to mention the NJ taxes that were doing the same. Where I worked in Jersey, there was nothing but a beautiful view of the NYC skyline. At lunch time in NJ, there was a choice of the disgusting caffeteria or food court. Boring to say the least. Now, in mid-town, the world is my oyster. I can have Chinese, Italian or even a dirty water dog if that is what I want.


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From: DWalheim (dwalheim at aol.com)
Subject: Law & Order FAQ, 1/2
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Det. Mike Logan (Christopher Noth) -- Irish Catholic; Never married; Had an abusive mother who became an alcoholic; his father, whom he adores but didn't see much of as a kid, was a beat cop and had a heart transplant; he worked as a cab driver to work his way through college; had a girlfriend who had an abortion that he opposed; extensive dating experience ;D  (at last count, maybe 5 women remained in NYC whom he hadn't yet dated); went to Catholic school as a child; disillusioned with the Catholic church because of his experience with his mother and a priest who molested him as a child; does well in the police baseball league; has an uncle who is a priest; has at least one other sibling because we know he has a niece and a nephew; likes Eric Clapton; Yankees fan; has a trademark brown leather coat and a closet full of plaid ties; always wears American flag lapel pin, consumes his weight in "dirty water dogs" and pizza, possibly ambidextrous -- uses European style of eating; low opinion of the wealthy; has type A blood, as does the rest of his family.


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Best food...Dirty Water Dog


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From: roguehk at flash.net (roguehk at flash.net)
Subject: Re: Here Comes the New VH!
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...the story behind "Dirty Water Dog" - well, by now you've seen the VH web page; basically, it's what they call the hot dogs the street vendor in NY serve.  EVH and Wolfy liked 'em.


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NEW ERA STARTS AT NEW YORK RICHIE'S
KATHRYN KURTZ. Columbian. Vancouver, Wash.: Jan 22, 1998. pg. 1
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New York Richie's garnered local fame for its hand-held fare. All-beef natural-skin hot dogs, dubbed "dirty water dogs" because they're cooked and await orders in murky, albeit clean, water, come imported directly from the Big Apple. Get your dog plain, covered with sauerkraut, onions, and chili, or somewhere in between ($1.95).


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From: Hardyboy01 (hardyboy01 at aol.com)
Subject: Re: Love British Cozies .. but whats with....
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And, before you ask, dirty water dogs are hot dogs boiled in water and sold on a bun (usually with some type of topping like chopped fried onions, relish etc.) from carts on street corners. A New York City lunch staple, esp. when served with a Dr. Brown's Celery Tonic (don't ask!) and a big salty hot pretzel with mustard.


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Sidewalk Vendors Rally to Protest Street Restrictions; 800 Peddlers March In Lower Manhattan
By MIKE ALLEN. New York Times (1857-Current file). New York, N.Y.: Jun 4, 1998. p. B1 (2 pages)
Pg. B1:
"New York is dirty-water dogs," she said, using an affectionate term for hot dogs employed by both vendors and their customers.


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From: Joanie-O (JOANIE-O at webtv.net)
Subject: Re: The Hot Dog Condiment
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Here in New York we have what's called the "Dirty Water Dog". They are sold on the streets of Manhattan. The hot dogs come from a company called from Sabrett. They also bottle a concoction called "onions". this is onions in a tomato sauce and goes on the hot dog in place of, or in addition, to sauerkraut. I don't know how out of towners would take to the DWD (dirty water dogs) but New Yorkers eat millions of them per year.

Here is how I like my DWD, a tiny dab of mustard and a lot of onions.

            Joanie-O


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http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/2003-01-02/cafe.html
By CAREY SWEET
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The best dog, since the dawn of time and through the ages never-ending, has been, and will always be, a Dirty Water dog. Dirty Water dogs are those franks served up from an umbrella-topped cart on virtually every street corner of Manhattan, hot, fast and loaded to order for just a buck. Dirty water really isn't dirty at all, though it sure looks like it as the vendor lifts the lid to his steam cart and sticks a long fork into a pit of roiling gray foam. The liquid's not scum, but jeweled broth flavored with the juices and salts and meaty liquor from that day's batch of wieners (the later in the day, the better the dog). The vendor shifts and spears -- whatever frankfurter he finds is intense, juicy gold.


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From: Brian Wickham (bwickham at NO~SPAM.nyc.rr.com)
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In my experience, most NYers disdain the "dirty water dog" (also known as the "tube steak") and you will never see them lining up to get one. I, on the other hand, like them if done properly.  If hot dogs are prepared at home they are almost invariably grilled.

Brian Wickham


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16 September 2004, Seattle (WA) <i>Times</i>, pg. C1:
Fans note that his franks snap when bitten a trademark of Big Apple-style hot dogs, which New Yorkers call "dirty dogs," or "dirty water dogs," in wry reference to the gritty, street-side vending location.


(OCLC WORLDCAT)
Title: Van Halen 3
Corp Author(s): Van Halen (Musical group)
Publication: Burbank, CA :; Warner Bros.,
Year: 1998
Description: 1 sound disc (65 min.) :; digital ;; 4 3/4 in.
Language: English
Music Type: Rock music
Standard No: Publisher: 9 46662-2; Warner Bros.; Other: 9362466622
Contents: Neworld (1:45) -- Without you (6:28) -- One I want (5:31) -- From afar (5:19) -- Dirty water dog (5:24) -- Once (7:40) -- Fire in the hole (5:27) -- Josephina (5:38) -- Year to the day (8:32) -- Primary (1:27) -- Ballot or the bullet (5:37) -- How many say I (6:04).


(OCLC WORLDCAT)
Title: Dirty Water Dogs
Year: 2001
Description: 1 sound disc :; digital ;; 4 3/4 in.
Language: English
Standard No: LCCN: 2003-564913
Contents: Shoot my anger -- Slash and burn -- Blue mile -- Too many reasons.
System Info: System requirements for multimedia portion of disc: IBM PC (Windows) or Macintosh ; MP3 files may be played using any MP3 software.
Note(s): Copyright registration information: (c) (p) Suitable Songs, Inc.; words, music & performance: Paul Carden, 1955- & Thomas M. Hood, 1955-/ Compact disc./ Brief record.