FW: [19cBB] Nautica (and baseball terms)

[Cohen, Gerald Leonard]

Dear members of ads-l,
  FYI, below my signoff is a message sent to the 19th-century-baseball discussion group pertaining to nautica and baseball. John Thorn is one of the most knowledgeable members of the group,

Gerald Cohen
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> From:         Priscilla Astifan
> Sent:         Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:20 PM
> To:   19cBB at yahoogroups.com
> Subject:      Re: [19cBB] Nautica
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> John,
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> Thanks so much for sharing this with the group.  I'm VERY intrigued with baseball's nautical connections and want to know more,  am hoping I'll be able to read the article.
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> Would you possibly be able to share some specifics about the "sky scraper's" nautical connections and the other terms as well, for those of us who are maritime illiterates.  I've seen the term sky scraper often in my early Rochester research but had no idea it had nautical connections; the others either for that matter, even though they're more suggestive.   I do recall that "around the horn" was described earlier.
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> That figurehead is extremely fascinating too, and I'd love to see an image though I don't image one exists.  Perhaps an artist should recreate it from the descriptions.
>
> I might mention that when I recently read a John Adams biography, "huzzah" (though it was spelled without the ending h, I believe) was said to be an old sea term.  I have the book and can dig it out if anyone wants the exact
> quote about it.  Perhaps I've mentioned it before in a post but don't think so.  It was also mentioned that Adams played ball in his childhood.
>
> Thanks again for some intriguing thoughts,
>
> Priscilla Astifan
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> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "John Thorn" <jthorn at newworldsports.org>
> To: "19cBB" <19cBB at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:39 PM
> Subject: [19cBB] Nautica
>
>
> >
> > I have recently been in correspondence with Glenn Gordinier, the historian
> > at Mystic Seaport, about a figurehead, a ship named Albany, and a brig
> named
> > Reaper. All of this relates to an around-the-Horn voyage that Frank
> Pidgeon
> > took in 1849, before he was famous for baseball exploits, and my story
> about
> > the research will be published by the Woodstock Times later this week.
> (BTW,
> > the maritime trade has given to baseball not only "on deck" and "in the
> > hold" but also "around the horn" and "skyscraper," this last one for a
> high
> > fly ball.)
> >
> > Glenn was kind enough to share with me the following nice bits:
> >
> > "FROM: James Baughman, The Malorys of Mystic: Six Generations in American
> > Maritime Enterprise, Wesleyan University Press, 1972. p. 12 - 'Mr. Beebe
> had
> > had been doing work for the fishermen of Mystic, a small hamlet on the
> > Mystic River about seven miles east of New London, and my father [Charles
> > Mallory] was acquainted with many of the fishermen. He arrived there on
> > Christmas Day [1816] and found some of his acquaintances playing ball in
> > what was called Randall's Orchard. Here he picked up his first job in
> > repairing a suit of sails for a fishing smack. . . . ' etc. etc.
> >
> > "Also . . . the ship Frolic launched on the Mystic Seaport property by Geo. Greenman and Co. in 1869 had an intriguing figurehead. According to the local paper, the Mystic Pioneer, it was ' . . . a splendid figurehead
> carved
> > by our artistic townsmen, Campbell & Colby. It is a lady with a bat in one hand in the act of striking a ball she holds in the other, enjoying a frolic. It is very appropriate. . . .'
> >
> > "If I remember correctly, at least one of these shipcarvers played ball for the local club, the Mystic Oceanics, for a number of years after the Civil
> > War."
> >
> > john thorn
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