"infamous" = famous; "assassinate" = murder; "feasible" = plausible; "ancestor" = descendant.
Jonathan Lighter
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Sun Feb 20 20:39:56 UTC 2005
I too have come across "assassinate" as a simple synonym for "murder." (Though"murder" is so easier to say !) This was on the Web, not in the professional media - yet.
Arnold's point about "infamous" is well taken, but a friend of mine has been using it in what seems to me to be a broader sense for at least a dozen years. Like so many others, he uses "heinous" to mean "quite unpleasant."
Predicative usage sometimes seems to vary with attributive - a point I can't recall seeing addressed. For example,
"... as well as their infamous [i.e., well-known] names."
sounds much more idiomatic than
*"The WB characters' names are infamous [well-known]."
Moreover,
"The WB characters are infamous for their entertainment value."
also sounds plausible (and not "feasible," which nowadays is a widely used synonym for "plausible").
Placing an old adjective with a new meaning at the very end of a clause strikes a more discordant note. To me, anyway.
And in a fans' discussion of the same Warner Bros. project, which will place crime-fighting descendants of Bugs Bunny et al. in the 28th century:
Damn, Lola's gonna be in it (well an ancestor anyways) I may watch it after all, not enjoy it mind you, just watch it.
--- "Are these guys morons!!" Feb. 18, 2005, posted by "da_bunnyman" [ http://forum.bcdb.com/forum/_C1/_F2/Are_these_guys_morons!!_P39945/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=39945;page=2;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;guest=4207007 ]
JL
Jan Kammert <write at SCN.ORG> wrote:
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If this is true, then is there a word to replace the meaning I understand
for infamous (famous for doing bad)?
My 8th grade students seem to think that assassination means any murder,
especially a murder for hire. If that's true, is there a new word that
means killing someone who is politically important? I hope the English
language doesn't lose important meanings as old words take on broader
meanings.
Jan
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> Becoming endemic but not in OED, "infamous" as "well-known; famous" :
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> http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0700world/tm_objectid=15204502&method=full&siteid=50082&headline=futuristic-makeover-for-bugs-bunny-and-co-name_page.html
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> "Carrot-chomping Bugs Bunny is joined by animated favourites Daffy Duck, Wile E Coyote, the Tasmanian Devil, Road Runner and Lola Bunny.
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> "However, hardcore fans are in for a shock - the trademark characteristics will be gone, as will their infamous names.
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> "Bugs is set to be renamed Buzz Bunny, while Daffy Duck will sport a built-in sonar."
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> "Futuristic makeover for Bugs Bunny and Co," icWales, the national website of Wales,(
> Feb. 18, 2005.
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> (The story reported is itself worthy of infamy - in the old sense.)
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