"smart" = "considerable (in number, amount, extent, etc.)"

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM
Wed Jan 26 23:38:54 UTC 2005


Slater, USAFR, used to be an English professor and, back from Asia where he was a PAO, resumed his current job with National Public Radio in Ohio.

So he's literate.  Actually, his short memoir is gracefully written (and available on-line). Color photos, too.  "Smart" shouldn't be a misprint.

JL

Wilson Gray <wilson.gray at RCN.COM> wrote:
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Slater's usage seems strange to me, too, Jon. And I've actually known
people who said "right smart." If I'd come across this usage of "smart"
in situ, I would have assumed that it was some sort of typo, perhaps
for "small." But "small" doesn't clarify things much, either.

-Wilson

On Jan 26, 2005, at 1:37 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:

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> OED thinks so too, Bill. But Slater's usage seems odd tp me, esp. in a
> standard English context.
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> Still recovering from the shame,
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> JL
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> "Mullins, Bill" wrote:
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> It seems related to "right smart", which I've seen used to mean "very"
> or "considerable"
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>> OED has this from 1778-1882, marked "Chiefly dial. and U.S."
>> Here is an ex. from more than a century later. It caught my
>> eye because at first I thought it was only a bad metaphor.
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>> "I get used to the dust...fine dust like talcum powder....It
>> piles up wherever it finds a niche...The dust is smart enough
>> to ground an aircraft." --Major Richard C. Slater, "Notes
>> from a Journal: Afghanistan...," War, Literature, & the Arts
>> (16 [2004]: 151).
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>> Is anyone familiar with this usage?
>>
>> JL
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