"smart" = "considerable (in number, amount, extent, etc.)"

Wilson Gray wilson.gray at RCN.COM
Thu Jan 27 01:55:15 UTC 2005


I was thinking more along the lines of an error by the editor or by the
typesetter, not one by the author himself, part-time zoomie though he
be.

-Wilson

On Jan 26, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:

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> Slater, USAFR, used to be an English professor and, back from Asia
> where he was a PAO, resumed his current job with National Public Radio
> in Ohio.
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> So he's literate.  Actually, his short memoir is gracefully written
> (and available on-line). Color photos, too.  "Smart" shouldn't be a
> misprint.
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> JL
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> Wilson Gray <wilson.gray at RCN.COM> wrote:
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> Slater's usage seems strange to me, too, Jon. And I've actually known
> people who said "right smart." If I'd come across this usage of "smart"
> in situ, I would have assumed that it was some sort of typo, perhaps
> for "small." But "small" doesn't clarify things much, either.
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> -Wilson
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> On Jan 26, 2005, at 1:37 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>> OED thinks so too, Bill. But Slater's usage seems odd tp me, esp. in a
>> standard English context.
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>> Still recovering from the shame,
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>> JL
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>> "Mullins, Bill" wrote:
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>> It seems related to "right smart", which I've seen used to mean "very"
>> or "considerable"
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>>> OED has this from 1778-1882, marked "Chiefly dial. and U.S."
>>> Here is an ex. from more than a century later. It caught my
>>> eye because at first I thought it was only a bad metaphor.
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>>> "I get used to the dust...fine dust like talcum powder....It
>>> piles up wherever it finds a niche...The dust is smart enough
>>> to ground an aircraft." --Major Richard C. Slater, "Notes
>>> from a Journal: Afghanistan...," War, Literature, & the Arts
>>> (16 [2004]: 151).
>>>
>>> Is anyone familiar with this usage?
>>>
>>> JL
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