negation + "including" (dangling modifier for free)

[James Smith]

There was only one "no" vote, by the only person who
was both a member of the council and a member of the
dissenters.


--- Victoria Neufeldt <vneufeldt at MERRIAM-WEBSTER.COM>
wrote:
> Negation + 'including' doesn't work for me either.
> But, man, that
> whole sentence needs to be recast: besides the
> negation-+-'including'
> and the dangling modifier, 'including' doesn't even
> make sense here,
> because there was only *one* 'no' vote.
>
> Victoria
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: American Dialect Society
> > [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]On Behalf
> > Of Arnold M. Zwicky
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:14 PM
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > Subject: negation + "including" (dangling modifier
> for free)
> >
> >
> > from the Palo Alto Daily News, "City OKs
> university land deal" by
> > Jason Green, 5/4/05, p. 74:
> > -----
> > Although touted by university officials and city
> staff as a historic
> > deal, not everyone was in favor of the agreement,
> including council
> > member Yoriko Kishimoto.  Of the six council
> members
> > eligible to vote
> > on the Mayfield agreement, Kishimoto cast the sole
> "no" vote.
> > -----
> >
> > "not everyone was in favor" implies "there were
> people not in
> > favor"/"some people were not in favor", and *then*
> we get
> > an explicit
> > reference to a group than kishimoto  can be
> asserted to be included
> > in.  for me, "not everyone" isn't enough to
> support the "including
> > NP" phrase.  but i'm guessing that other people's
> mileages vary.
> >
> > arnold
> >
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James D. SMITH                 |If history teaches anything
South SLC, UT                  |it is that we will be sued
jsmithjamessmith at yahoo.com     |whether we act quickly and decisively
                               |or slowly and cautiously.




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